Excuse me...you DO mean organic, heirloom lettuce lovingly grown in poop from free range chickens? Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
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Excuse me...you DO mean organic, heirloom lettuce lovingly grown in poop from free range chickens? Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by bae
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Originally Posted by dmc
Ha ha...you HAVE noticed I don't jump in here every time Romney makes a gaffe....and there HAVE been a lot of them! There is just too many real, important things to talk about to waste time on misspeaks.
Also, I have the rather odd habit (i know) of actually LISTENING to the WHOLE sentence, and the WHOLE paragraph, whichever side is speaking. Admittedly it would be more fun to take any number of Romneys gaffes or partial sentences or misspeaks, and create a 'controversy', but that wouldn't be totally honest, would it.;) Who do you think I am? Fox News?
The lettuce also grows better if sung to, strictly operatic pieces for my lettuce.Quote:
Excuse me...you DO mean organic, heirloom lettuce lovingly grown in poop from free range chickens? Right?
One plus! Robs friend's $800 hernia surgury in Mexico would be affordable to us from the USA, but would that be considered afordable for most low-income Mexicans? Also, how much does the governement of Mexico (or any other country with lower out-of-pocket medical costs) substidize healthcare in their country? With, I'm assuming, their citizens tax dollars. My sister lived in New Zealand for over a year and went to the doctor for something. It was very inexpensive for her. However it was inexpensive for her because the taxpaying citizens of New Zealand were paying a large portion of their income towards the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by creaker
Of course other countries generally have a lower cost of living so therefore their medicsal care is going to cost less even if not subsidized by taxes. Sounds to me that is what Rob is looking for. I read that India has a whole sub-culture of medical workers, hospitals and doctors that just provide cash-only medical services for foreigners. And while those medical services would be much too expensive for the average Indian, they are very inexpensive to most foreigners from the west.
Oops. I forgot the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tag on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
Sorry, no warm fuzzies for Ronnie here. I will give him credit for being a better communicator than White House inhabitants like Bush43, Quayle, and (yes) Biden. I will give him credit for being able to quickly alter the national conversation from "should we cut?" to "how much should we cut?" Beyond that, though, I absolutely believe America's slide into becoming a banana republic started on his watch, and that GOP fealty to their vision of what Reagan stood for has screw^h^h^h^h^h messed up the country since. The issue of abortion aside, at least Ronnie stayed out of people's bedrooms. And he was realistic enough to realize that life as we knew it would not end because he authorized a tax increase. In today's Republican party, Reagan -- as he was -- would be a RINO, having failed to display the evangelical extremism that politicians like Bachmann and Perry muster and not being able to sign on to Grover Norquist's country-killing tax pledge.
Aside from occasional bouts of foot-in-mouth disease (also suffered by George W. Bush and Dan Quayle), what's the beef with Biden?Quote:
Originally Posted by dmc
Down in our hidey-hole with the rest of us crazy-armed-tin-foil-hat-wearing-waiting-for-the-mutant-zombie-hoardes looneys? Bring cake!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dmc
Heck, I'll almost be happy the day the ferry to the mainland stops running. Life will be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartana
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The $800 hernia operation was in Cambodia, not Mexico. Mexico is not quite that cheap.....I wish it was but it's not. Mexico does have socialized medicine BTW - the only real problem is that you have to be in the formal economy to get it - so all those people hawking goods at you on street corners - they don't qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartana
And India does have great health care available for foreigners who can pay cash. I am reading a book now called State of the Heart about a couple who went to India for the husband's open heart surgery. They had very good things to say about the experience and encourage others to offshore their health care too. India sounds absolutely fascinating but it's very hard to stay on legally long term. Rob
I've also been interested in moving out of the country at some point even though I am able to use the VA for medical care cheap or free. But the cost of living overall in many places is so much cheaper that my quality of life, both financially as well as from a lifestyle perspective, may be better. One of the books that inspired me to retire early was called "Cashing in on the American Dream: How to Retire at 35" by Paul and Vicky Terhorst. They got rid of everything and became travellers, living for long periods of time in low-cost counties like Thailand, etc... eventually settling down in Argentina. They had good jobs and a large saving accounts to live off so didn't need to work (making that transition MUCH easier for them) but much of their advise may work for those who need to work. For me, as a female, I do have to many consideration about living in a foreign place that males usually don't have to deal with. Everything from safety issues (is it safe to walk alone at night, drive or travel by train or bus long distances, etc...) to social issues like how must I dress and behave? Will I be accepted in the culture if I don't abide by certain gender-roles/rules? Lots of little things that can be big things over the long term. I know you may have those same issues in a forgein country being a gay man as many places aren't as enlightened as the USA - well, parts of the USA :-)!Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife
Gregg, I'm telling Mrs. M on you. Since she is the informal resident leader of the anti-salad-spinner contingent I'm sure she'd like to hear of this transgression...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
I thought this article would be of interest
http://news.yahoo.com/presented-lett...-politics.html
Apparently Ryan was hypercritical of the stimulus however requested some of it.
I imagine these types of articles and accusations are going to be a daily occurance for both candidates and their inner circles.
The spinnies are going underground. All she'll find are shadows at Bed, Bath & Beyond. (Pay close attention to the 'beyond'...)Quote:
Originally Posted by jp1
Perhaps one of the most damning things about Ryan, and actually there are many, is his bill for 'Personhood'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...elections-2012
This is a bill that would criminalize abortion, for any reason...ANY reason, as well as some forms of birth control. IUD This is the far far right push to give rights to a fertilized egg! He wants to defund planed parenthood, as well as drastically cut spending for aid to single mothers and poor kids. What a prince, huh?! Oh, and to just make sure the punch to the jaw is coupled with a kick in the gut, he of course will repeal Obamacare, as well as destroy medicare and medicaid.
But, never worry, the very wealthy will get a tax break, as in NO tax for capitol gains, so, it's all good!;)
Yeah, they are going to have to pry my spinner from my cold, dead, but rather dry, and remarkably unwrinkled hands!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
The aspect of this that usually gets short shrift in this argument is that this includes the LIFE OF THE MOTHER! I'm a bleeding heart liberal and anti-abortion. So I can kind of understand the arguments for personhood and rape and incest--although personhood is pushing it too far for me. I believe an implanted fetus shouldn't be killed because of the circumstances of its fertilization.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggy
But LIFE OF THE MOTHER? The mother should DIE rather than the fetus? Why is the fetus' life MORE valuable than that of its mother? To me, this is utterly absurd and smacks of nothing less than misogyny. I wonder what those personhood proponents would argue if the fetus was only female?
Actually it would often be both - if the fetus is not viable it will die along with the mother.Quote:
Originally Posted by bunnys
Ezra Klein makes the argument that Ryan's rise to prominence has largely been the result of the Obama Administration's effort to create a villain they could oppose in the media.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...is-budget.html
You mean there weren't enough righty villains already? Talk about a zombie army!Quote:
Originally Posted by LDAHL
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When your record is lamentable, your signature policies unpopular and your ideas threadbare, there can never be enough villains. With little worth defending, attack is the only viable strategy. You need villains in the past like the baneful Bush to excuse your current failures. You need a pantheon of plutocratic malefactors like the carcinogenic Romney or the wheelchair-shoving Ryan to convince the gullible that there are even worse choices than yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I love your characterization of the Republican slate: "plutocratic malefactors" sums it up. Of course, as one of your "gullibles," I choose to believe President Obama's record is only "lamentable" because he has to deal with an obstructionist Republican Congress loyal only to unelected titular party head Grover Norquist, whose one and only goal is to keep him from obtaining a second term. Pity.
ETA: For anyone who doesn't know, Norquist requires Republican operatives to sign a pledge never to raise taxes--on pain of being excommunicated or worse, I guess. Conservative pundit Tucker Carlson summed him up thus to Slate: “a mean-spirited, humorless, dishonest little creep . . . the leering, drunken uncle everyone else wishes would stay home.”
The perfect villan, aye? Since Norquist can't be voted out of office the left must feel like they found the holy grail.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
I think most of us on the left would just like to go back to a time when it only took 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and people on both sides of the aisle were willing to work with each other for the good of this once-great country.
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Originally Posted by JaneV2.0
Since Norquist can't be voted out, the left wonders why all the elected republicans swear an oath to HIM before they even take office, and why anyone would vote for a representative who answers FIRST to an unelected lobbyist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg
+2. I may not agree with the "conservative" approach in general, but working together to address the country's problems are far preferable to parties holding tantrums to get their way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneV2.0