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    Senior Member JaneV2.0's Avatar
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    I love your characterization of the Republican slate: "plutocratic malefactors" sums it up. Of course, as one of your "gullibles," I choose to believe President Obama's record is only "lamentable" because he has to deal with an obstructionist Republican Congress loyal only to unelected titular party head Grover Norquist, whose one and only goal is to keep him from obtaining a second term. Pity.

    ETA: For anyone who doesn't know, Norquist requires Republican operatives to sign a pledge never to raise taxes--on pain of being excommunicated or worse, I guess. Conservative pundit Tucker Carlson summed him up thus to Slate: “a mean-spirited, humorless, dishonest little creep . . . the leering, drunken uncle everyone else wishes would stay home.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    ...as one of your "gullibles," I choose to believe President Obama's record is only "lamentable" because he has to deal with an obstructionist Republican Congress loyal only to unelected titular party head Grover Norquist, whose one and only goal is to keep him from obtaining a second term.
    The perfect villan, aye? Since Norquist can't be voted out of office the left must feel like they found the holy grail.

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    I think most of us on the left would just like to go back to a time when it only took 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and people on both sides of the aisle were willing to work with each other for the good of this once-great country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I think most of us on the left would just like to go back to a time when it only took 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and people on both sides of the aisle were willing to work with each other for the good of this once-great country.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    The perfect villan, aye? Since Norquist can't be voted out of office the left must feel like they found the holy grail.
    Since Norquist can't be voted out, the left wonders why all the elected republicans swear an oath to HIM before they even take office, and why anyone would vote for a representative who answers FIRST to an unelected lobbyist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I think most of us on the left would just like to go back to a time when it only took 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate and people on both sides of the aisle were willing to work with each other for the good of this once-great country.
    +2. I may not agree with the "conservative" approach in general, but working together to address the country's problems are far preferable to parties holding tantrums to get their way.
    Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome. - Booker T. Washington

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