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1-4-26, 10:28am
iris lilies

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Originally Posted by catherine

He even has a name for it: The Donroe Doctrine. So he's proud to brand his expansionist ambitions. Is there nothing the man won't name after himself?

oh for heaven sakes it’s funny. Donroe Doctrine.

The man can (sometimes) deliver a line which even his haters should be able to admit.
1-4-26, 10:47am
Rogar

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Originally Posted by Alan

As I understand it a previous Venezuelan dictator awarded contracts to US, British and Dutch oil companies in the years leading up to WWI. Outside of enriching the dictator, I think that action also provided great economic growth for the country overall. Is there more to it than that?

The Snopes fact checker offered some explanations for me.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...ezuela-us-oil/
1-4-26, 10:52am
Alan

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

From what I understand, congressional approval was required in this situation before action … which was not done.

Did Congress authorize us to get involved with and support anti Gaddafi militants in Libya with the express purpose of effecting regime change through Muammar's overthrow? I think Obama and Clinton may have established a precedent in this sort of thing.
1-4-26, 10:58am
Alan

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Originally Posted by Rogar

The Snopes fact checker offered some explanations for me.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...ezuela-us-oil/

LOL, I'm not sure how it explained anything said in my post which you copied, but OK.
1-4-26, 11:07am
Rogar

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Originally Posted by Alan

LOL, I'm not sure how it explained anything said in my post which you copied, but OK.

I'm glad you agree, then. I suspect I didn't understand completely what you were saying. or it was incomplete.

I guess the bottom line I got from snopes is that Venezuela did not steal us oil and Trump lied about it, among other details. Maybe that's what you were getting at.
1-4-26, 12:27pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

oh for heaven sakes it’s funny. Donroe Doctrine.

The man can (sometimes) deliver a line which even his haters should be able to admit.

I find nothing funny about this moron.
1-4-26, 12:31pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Rogar

The Snopes fact checker offered some explanations for me.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...ezuela-us-oil/

Thanks for posting. Here is an interesting section:
Experts agreed, without hesitation, that any use of force by Trump to recover U.S. oil industry-related assets would violate international law.)

Venezuelan oil belongs to Venezuela

It is a fundamental principle of international law: Countries have total ownership and control (in academic terms, "permanent sovereignty") over their own natural resources. That includes oil, said both Rodríguez and Milena Sterio, an expert in international law at Cleveland State University.
1-4-26, 12:33pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Alan

Did Congress authorize us to get involved with and support anti Gaddafi militants in Libya with the express purpose of effecting regime change through Muammar's overthrow? I think Obama and Clinton may have established a precedent in this sort of thing.

That was not a question I brought forth…
1-4-26, 12:50pm
Alan

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

From what I understand, congressional approval was required in this situation before action … which was not done. It is dubious if this action is even legal by some news sources? Supposedly, according to trump, billions of US$ will be infused into the oil infrastructure. Surely, there will be no gains for the US ..SNARK! Looks like a political takeover to enrich certain entities TBD.

Sure does not make me proud to be an American!

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Originally Posted by Alan

Did Congress authorize us to get involved with and support anti Gaddafi militants in Libya with the express purpose of effecting regime change through Muammar's overthrow? I think Obama and Clinton may have established a precedent in this sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by frugal-one

That was not the question I brought forth…

Okay, the only thing close to a question I saw in your post which I responded to was "From what I understand, congressional approval was required in this situation before action … which was not done. It is dubious if this action is even legal by some news sources? ". My reply had to do with that. If there was another question hidden somewhere, I'd be happy to discuss it.
1-4-26, 1:51pm
frugal-one

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Originally Posted by Alan

Okay, the only thing close to a question I saw in your post which I responded to was "From what I understand, congressional approval was required in this situation before action … which was not done. It is dubious if this action is even legal by some news sources? ". My reply had to do with that. If there was another question hidden somewhere, I'd be happy to discuss it.

No question asked.

Just watched Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley which gave oversight on Venezuela…..

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