Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

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Originally Posted by Alan

Not outside of negotiated prices for services rendered and even then I wouldn't have the 'right' to set the terms the provider must adhere to.
If I attempted that, I'd expect the service provider to suggest I find someone else.

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You get the services of public roads. The costs are not outside the provider's control?

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

You get the services of public roads. The costs are not outside the provider's control?

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Well that brings up the subject of public vs private. Would you suggest that your use of a toll road involves negotiable pricing for the user?
Or, on the public side, would you suggest that I have a 'right' to pay a lower fuel tax?

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Originally Posted by Alan

Well that brings up the subject of public vs private. Would you suggest that your use of a toll road involves negotiable pricing for the user?

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Excellent non-answer.

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

Excellent non-answer.

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An answer not to your liking is still an answer. Try asking a more relevant question. Likening a public resource to a private provider only confuses people who can't see the difference.

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

Maybe I need to state my point diffetently, then. By crossing the border, I take back some of the power over pricing - that's quite likely where the intense joy I feel once I cross the turnstile (sp?) and am in Mexico comes from. I refuse the role of victim by doing so and I vote with my feet. Rob

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I'm sure General Motors and Rockwell feel the same joy. That's why I support free trade.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I'm sure General Motors and Rockwell feel the same joy. That's why I support free trade.

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I see a huge difference here. In my case I am speaking of accessing basic human rights that I would not be priced out of in any other first world country due to socialized medicine. The corporations you speak of don't hold the same moral high ground that my example does......they are merely cutting costs to increase returns to shareholders. Big difference from a human rights perspective. Rob

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

Excellent non-answer.

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Agreed. Rob

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Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

I see a huge difference here. In my case I am speaking of accessing basic human rights that I would not be priced out of in any other first world country due to socialized medicine. The corporations you speak of don't hold the same moral high ground that my example does......they are merely cutting costs to increase returns to shareholders. Big difference from a human rights perspective. Rob

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Why is cost-cutting a basic human right for you but not GM?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

Why is cost-cutting a basic human right for you but not GM?

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GM is human?

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Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler

GM is human?

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It's composed of humans. It's struggling to survive in a competitive environment to support employees and shareholders.