Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[Ultralight]

Not outside of negotiated prices for services rendered and even then I wouldn't have the 'right' to set the terms the provider must adhere to.
If I attempted that, I'd expect the service provider to suggest I find someone else.

You get the services of public roads. The costs are not outside the provider's control?

[Alan]

You get the services of public roads. The costs are not outside the provider's control?

Well that brings up the subject of public vs private. Would you suggest that your use of a toll road involves negotiable pricing for the user?
Or, on the public side, would you suggest that I have a 'right' to pay a lower fuel tax?

[Ultralight]

Well that brings up the subject of public vs private. Would you suggest that your use of a toll road involves negotiable pricing for the user?

Excellent non-answer.

[Alan]

Excellent non-answer.

An answer not to your liking is still an answer. Try asking a more relevant question. Likening a public resource to a private provider only confuses people who can't see the difference.

[LDAHL]

Maybe I need to state my point diffetently, then. By crossing the border, I take back some of the power over pricing - that's quite likely where the intense joy I feel once I cross the turnstile (sp?) and am in Mexico comes from. I refuse the role of victim by doing so and I vote with my feet. Rob

I'm sure General Motors and Rockwell feel the same joy. That's why I support free trade.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I'm sure General Motors and Rockwell feel the same joy. That's why I support free trade.

I see a huge difference here. In my case I am speaking of accessing basic human rights that I would not be priced out of in any other first world country due to socialized medicine. The corporations you speak of don't hold the same moral high ground that my example does......they are merely cutting costs to increase returns to shareholders. Big difference from a human rights perspective. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Excellent non-answer.

Agreed. Rob

[LDAHL]

I see a huge difference here. In my case I am speaking of accessing basic human rights that I would not be priced out of in any other first world country due to socialized medicine. The corporations you speak of don't hold the same moral high ground that my example does......they are merely cutting costs to increase returns to shareholders. Big difference from a human rights perspective. Rob

Why is cost-cutting a basic human right for you but not GM?

[Ultralight]

Why is cost-cutting a basic human right for you but not GM?

GM is human?

[LDAHL]

GM is human?

It's composed of humans. It's struggling to survive in a competitive environment to support employees and shareholders.