That is just stupid. But I guess I can take away from your comment that you DO think it protects Joe Average's right to keep and hold guns and plenty of them.Originally Posted by freein05
That is just stupid. But I guess I can take away from your comment that you DO think it protects Joe Average's right to keep and hold guns and plenty of them.
Last edited by iris lily; 1-5-13 at 12:39am.
Right now in IL, in a *lame duck* session of the state General Assembly, the Chicago/Cook County Dems are doing their darndest to pass a semi-automatic gun ban. Not just "assault weapons" but anything else that is semi-auto, including handguns. They tried to get it through the IL Senate yesterday, but there wasn't enough support to get it out of committee. We pro-gun folks went to work. Now they're trying through the IL House - On Sunday. Thank goodness both my state rep and senator are pro-2nd Amendment. We're going back to work. Both my rep and senator actually responded to my emails and calls.
We should be able have any type of firearms in our home. The cops have machine guns so we need the same type of weapon to protect our homes and property. You must keep in mind when the 2nd amendment was written they only had flint locks. We have advanced way past the flint lock. We have even made it illegal to have slaves worst of all in the early 20th century we gave women the right to vote. The world and the US have changed in the last 200 years.
Edited to add: Mississippi was the last state to ratify the 19th amendment on March 22, 1984. Enough states had ratified it in 1919 so it became law in 1919. I fond that interesting when I looked it up. Who says southern states are backwards.
When the first amendment was written we had only quill pens and parchment paper. Just sayin'...
"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
Technology does make it necessary to define "gun". Why is a machine gun a "gun" but things like grenade launchers and bazookas or other artillery not? They are all "arms", why can't I just go out and buy one? Are my 2nd amendment rights being violated because I can't get my own grenade launcher and ammo?
Last edited by creaker; 1-5-13 at 11:38am.
The printing press did exist... ;-)
I have ever heard of any body being shot with quill.
And I see you've bought out all the ammo too. I went to several Walmarts and gun stores to buy ammo for my twice monthly target practice and everything was gone. Almost completely bare shelves at all places (although the cool Zombie - and rat zombie, my favorite - targets were still there :-)!). I think that is because starting today, Calif (or maybe it's Fed) institutes a limit on buying ammo and the need to register to buy it.
Let's narrow the field to just the five formal declarations of war by the US, five strokes of the pen...
The War of 1812. ~20,000 Deaths
The Mexican-American War. 13,283 Deaths.
The Spanish-American War. 2,446 Deaths.
WWI (Declaration of War on Germany) 116,516 Deaths.
WWII (Officially Declarations of War on Japan, Germany, Italy, Romania, Blugaria and Hungary) 405,399 Deaths.
Those figures are US casualties only, they don't include the other side. By my count just our official declarations of war led to ~557,644 American deaths. A pen, in the wrong hands, is far more dangerous than a rifle.
"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
That's actually a pretty interesting question creaker. I didn't immediately find any SCOTUS cases where someone was claiming 2nd Amendment violations because they couldn't buy a M198 Howitzer or other larger scale weapon. I'm also curious as to the exact limits and/or definitions.
"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
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