Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[iris lilies]

I find this situation rather amusing - someone taking offense because someone said something offensive because they took offense to someone saying something offensive. It's all very circular. And it's odd people expect the other person to break the cycle.

Haha, if you are talking about me, I do NOT expect someone to break the cycle.

Offense is part of daily life.

[ToomuchStuff]

The one part of the whole Trump candidacy that I am surprised not to have seen, a comparison between him running for the Republican nomination, verses Perot and his running as an independent.
Otherwise I see some of the same idea's and anger.

[Teacher Terry]

I can't believe that both nut jobs Trump and Cruz are so high in the polls and the normal people at the bottom. Trump insults and makes fun of disabled people-very classy. Then Cruz argues that Obama has a birther issue and then completely changes his response when it applies to him. Too funny if it wasn't so sad. Yes we need reform, we need to stop giving all the tax breaks to the wealthy and the corporations. They are what is hurting this country-not poor people.

[catherine]

I think the appeal for both Trump and Sanders speaks to a larger issue regarding people who simply are tired of establishment politics, and the perception that the government is sold to the highest bidder.

Trump has billions and doesn't need the money of special interests.

Sanders has no money, but is rejecting the money of special interests and is depending upon the donations of the grassroots supporters.

DH said that he wants either Trump or Sanders to win, and I told him "you can't like BOTH Sanders and Trump--that doesn't make sense," but I think many people might agree with him, no matter whether you are a staunch conservative or a Democratic socialist.

[bae]

Brilliant work by Williamsmith!

Interesting the hot-button responses it drew.

My personal politics revolve around not using force against others, voluntarily aiding those who need it, and living in community with others. So I have very little interest in the national elections, and few candidates I can morally support.

[CathyA]

I think the obnoxious citizens are getting all the air time. I'm thinking (hoping) those quieter/more reasonable citizens will show up at poll time.
And Trump.............he always starts talking about someone by saying "I like them........we're actually very good friends..........but......." then he says horrible things about them. He's a liar, plain and simple. It's just not making any sense to me what's going on now.

[Zoe Girl]

I didn't read all, about offensive speech. It is pretty clear that the big thing that happened is people stopped saying these things instead of actually seeing a different point of view. The change is incremental, glacial in fact. We may not say racist things so much but our prison system and many other measures says that we are still acting on this.

So as a non-traditional person just tell me that you are angry I am not Christian or even that I am going to hell instead of flipping out about Merry Christmas or a red starbucks cup,

[CathyA]

Just curious............how would it be handled, if the president were to be one of the evangelicals? I'm sure he wouldn't separate church and state very well. Should that be a requirement of the presidency........that he can't bring that to his administration?
Or would that all be acceptable since supposedly that's what the majority chose? (Especially if there were many of them in Congress).

[bae]

Just curious............how would it be handled, if the president were to be one of the evangelicals? I'm sure he wouldn't separate church and state very well. Should that be a requirement of the presidency........that he can't bring that to his administration?
Or would that all be acceptable since supposedly that's what the majority chose? (Especially if there were many of them in Congress).

I thought we went through all that when Kennedy was elected...

Also, it seems to me it would be unconstitutional to require membership, or lack of membership, in any particular sect as a requirment for office:

"... no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

[ApatheticNoMore]

It could make one angry at white males, but most of the white males I actually know and love are close to social democrats (and the clear choice there is Sanders) or points further left than that. So what to do ....