Hillary Clinton

[JaneV2.0]

I don't see Bernie as VP (funeral attendee). More as a change agent.

[creaker]

I don't see Bernie as VP (funeral attendee). More as a change agent.

That's one thing find a little depressing - so much fighting over the nominees that there's no discussion of what the Democrats will present as a platform at the DNC - that's one place where change could happen, but no one is talking about it.

[creaker]

Bernie just needs to drop the Democratic moniker and admit to full blown socialism.

I expect we're all socialists - just to different degrees.

[Williamsmith]

I thought I heard fireworks last night outside after the AP declared Clinton the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party for clinching the pledged delegate and super delegates she needs for an "historic" achievement. But when I poked my head outside during the intermission of the Stanley Cup finals between the San Jose Sharks and the Pittsburgh Penguins, I found it was just a summer thunderstorm rolling past. No glee in the heart of the rust belt. Just plenty of yawns.

Clinton said she has more "work to do" and plans to "fight" on. The only work she has ever done to my knowledge is with a microphone in hand collecting millions for talking to rich Goldman Sacks types and the only fighting has been done by the soldiers and embassy members in Lybia whom she allowed to be slaughtered. But hey, who defines work and fighting in this political season? She is good with personal emails though. The most highly qualified politician ever to run for President if knowing how to use the system to your favor and to amass wealth is a measure of qualification.

So, Democratics rejoice. The anointed one......is now anointed. Californians don't matter ........once again.

[catherine]

So, Democratics rejoice. The anointed one......is now anointed. Californians don't matter ........once again.

Today is primary day in my state today, too. You bet I'm going to vote for Bernie. He's not going down without a contested convention, so it ain't over till the old Democratic Socialist sings.

[Williamsmith]

Today is primary day in my state today, too. You bet I'm going to vote for Bernie. He's not going down without a contested convention, so it ain't over till the old Democratic Socialist sings.

Catherine, enjoy casting your vote for the Bern, to me it would be like giving Hillary a final one finger salute. Now, about Philadelphia, are you sure there isn't a way you guys in New Jersey wouldn't like to adopt one more great liberal city? It's right there on your border.

[LDAHL]

Today is primary day in my state today, too. You bet I'm going to vote for Bernie. He's not going down without a contested convention, so it ain't over till the old Democratic Socialist sings.

How can there be a contested convention if his opponent has the majority of delegates?

[Ultralight]

How can there be a contested convention if his opponent has the majority of delegates?

It won't be contested, it'll just be testy.

[Williamsmith]

How can there be a contested convention if his opponent has the majority of delegates?

Well, according to The Bern, its wrong to count the super delegates that are committed to Clinton because after all, they haven't actually cast their vote for Hillary until the Convention. Have you ever been in the courtroom when you know the fix is in?

[catherine]

How can there be a contested convention if his opponent has the majority of delegates?

If Bernie does well today--if he pulls an upset in CA for instance (they're pretty much neck-and-neck), he can try to pull over the superdelegates she has or challenge them, as Williamsmith said. He'll have more leverage if he continues to win states.

At least that's how I understand it.