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    Reminds me of the thread on this forum years ago about the sudden clearing out of the Occupy Wall Street protestors, and their tents and sleeping bags that were left behind.
    Lots of harrumphing about the mess. But hardly a peep about the Wall St. banksters who put us on the precipice of a world-wide economic collapse and the "mess" they created. Many posters were oddly focused almost solely on those in the park.
    Strange selective outrage, again.

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    Nah Occupy was grassroots like it or not. This is well astroturf ... but really it's not even astroturf, this is just a bunch of political theater that doesn't even PRETEND to have arisen from any of the actual citizens other than the political class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    Nah Occupy was grassroots like it or not. This is well astroturf ... but really it's not even astroturf, this is just a bunch of political theater that doesn't even PRETEND to have arisen from any of the actual citizens other than the political class.
    I'm inclined to agree with you. This looked to be more in the nature of fundraising with a bit of virtue-signalling tossed in to me. I don't think there's a spontaneous mass movement out there yearning to sing "We shall overcome the Bill of Rights".

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    I think that the folks doing the sit-in really meant it. Like, they really think that making tougher laws will change the situation.

    Sure, they will try to make some cash too. But I think they really mean it. I doubt the whole diabolical conspiracy theory that they just want to take rights away from people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    I think that the folks doing the sit-in really meant it. Like, they really think that making tougher laws will change the situation.

    Sure, they will try to make some cash too. But I think they really mean it. I doubt the whole diabolical conspiracy theory that they just want to take rights away from people.
    The new government powers they were demanding would have done nothing to prevent the Orlando tragedy had they been in place. They were just looking to capitalize on the situation to get a little media attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    The new government powers they were demanding would have done nothing to prevent the Orlando tragedy had they been in place.
    I suspect that they think the new power they wanted would have done something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    I suspect that they think the new power they wanted would have done something.
    I suspect that they are cynically exploiting a tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I suspect that they are cynically exploiting a tragedy.
    Liberals say the same thing of conservatives. Who is correct? Perhaps both liberals and conservatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    The new government powers they were demanding would have done nothing to prevent the Orlando tragedy had they been in place. They were just looking to capitalize on the situation to get a little media attention.
    I turned on the TV last night saw Sanders on Colbert. I didn't catch the whole interview, so I may have missed something(s), but he discussed the sit in and said he couldn't explain it to people if they didn't want someone to fly, why would they want them to have a gun (paraphrased). My immediate reaction was he didn't understand the difference between a right and a privilege, and they were looking for something like a Patriot act, rights suspension bill. (hoping to get people to call for it and give up their rights out of fear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with you. This looked to be more in the nature of fundraising with a bit of virtue-signalling tossed in to me. I don't think there's a spontaneous mass movement out there yearning to sing "We shall overcome the Bill of Rights".
    I agree, but only because the majority of people are not thinking of it from a Bill of Rights perspective, but from the desire to achieve a particular outcome, regardless of the consequences. Our politicians, who should know better, seem to have no problem with the idea of trampling the Bill of Rights in order to appear responsive. We've seen it with the First Amendment when they went after equal time requirements on talk radio and with the attempt to block a movie critical of Hillary Clinton prior to the 2008 election. We're seeing it now with the attempt to invalidate the Second Amendment by suppressing citizens Fifth Amendment right to due process, all in an effort to achieve a specific outcome without any concern for the un-intended consequences.

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