How many more?

[Tradd]

WE have gotten so paranoid that if we get stopped we put our hands up high on steering wheel so they can see them. When they ask for DL we ask if it is ok to go into our glove department to get it. I am not giving anyone a reason to shoot me.

That's not paranoid. That's just basic common sense.

The girlfriend of the guy in MN apparently said on the video that he had his concealed carry permit. I have not seen that confirmed by any law enforcement agency. Depending on the state, your carry permit may or may not come up when they run your plates. It depends on if the state ties your registration to your DL, and if your carry permit is tied to your DL. MN is not automatically a duty to inform state. You have to inform LE you're carrying ONLY if they ask (IL is the same way). It's considered preferable by many to inform LE immediately that you're carrying. Some states require the notification to be done verbally. In others, handing the cop your carry permit (and DL) is considered sufficient.

You do NOT want to make ANY furtive movements. You're risking getting shot if you do. The way to handle a traffic stop is: car stopped, radio off, driver's side window rolled down, dome light on at night/low light conditions, both hands on the steering wheel. You immediately tell the officer that you have a carry permit and you're carrying in X location (right hip, for example), or if your pistol is in your purse, center console, etc.., and what would the officer like you to do next. If officer tells you to not touch pistol, and you need to show documents, you indicate where DL/carry permit/insurance card/registration is and get them out. Slow movements, nothing suspicious.

I've been stopped while carrying - in Virginia, for speeding (on a road trip from IL to NC). VA is not a duty to notify state, but I did it anyway. I handled the stop as I outlined above and there were no issues. Deputy thanked me for notifying him.

[Ultralight]

That's not paranoid. That's just basic common sense.

The girlfriend of the guy in MN apparently said on the video that he had his concealed carry permit. I have not seen that confirmed by any law enforcement agency. Depending on the state, your carry permit may or may not come up when they run your plates. It depends on if the state ties your registration to your DL, and if your carry permit is tied to your DL. MN is not automatically a duty to inform state. You have to inform LE you're carrying ONLY if they ask (IL is the same way). It's considered preferable by many to inform LE immediately that you're carrying. Some states require the notification to be done verbally. In others, handing the cop your carry permit (and DL) is considered sufficient.

You do NOT want to make ANY furtive movements. You're risking getting shot if you do. The way to handle a traffic stop is: car stopped, radio off, driver's side window rolled down, dome light on at night/low light conditions, both hands on the steering wheel. You immediately tell the officer that you have a carry permit and you're carrying in X location (right hip, for example), or if your pistol is in your purse, center console, etc.., and what would the officer like you to do next. If officer tells you to not touch pistol, and you need to show documents, you indicate where DL/carry permit/insurance card/registration is and get them out. Slow movements, nothing suspicious.

I've been stopped while carrying - in Virginia, for speeding (on a road trip from IL to NC). VA is not a duty to notify state, but I did it anyway. I handled the stop as I outlined above and there were no issues. Deputy thanked me for notifying him.

You don't get to blame the guy.

[Tradd]

Not blaming the guy. Just saying what can happen.

[catherine]

Not blaming the guy. Just saying what can happen.

What did happen shouldn't have happened. Tradd, you are a white female. Even the Governor of MN said that if Philander Castille had been white, this wouldn't have happened. We white people can feel safer than blacks in this country with good reason. And that's not right.

[Lainey]

I think that municipalities need to take a serious look at their hiring practices for police officers.

[Zoe Girl]

I think that municipalities need to take a serious look at their hiring practices for police officers.

YES! and the culture and ongoing training. Throw in some consequences for acting as judge and jury and we may get somewhere. I know of police officers who have committed domestic violence, ex-wives reported it and nothing happened, They still are officers and carry a gun to this day. There is no excuse for that, I can;'t think of any reason whatsoever that a domestic abuser should have a job as a police officer or even qualify to carry a gun,

[iris lilies]

The Minnesota shooting is sad and unfortunate, especially if it proves to be unprovoked.

But death to black men comes, by an order ofor magnitude, at the hands of other non LEO black men over other demographics.

This week in St. Louis we had 6 deaths within a 24 hour period; none were officer involved shootings. I believe all shooters were black men but I can't verify that. Our local rag doesnt always provide race of shooters or victims, but does provide that info sometimes according to byzantine rules no one understands.

[Tradd]

Two Dallas cops have just been shot at a protest in Dallas.

[catherine]

Two Dallas cops have just been shot at a protest in Dallas.

I see that on Fox News, but it doesn't look like CNN's covering it.

[Tradd]

Live stream from DFW TV station.

http://livestream.com/kdfw/live