Anyone start an RNC discussion thread yet?

[bae]

So what is the deal here?

People are allow to pack outside by not inside?

You could probably Google that.

[creaker]

You could probably Google that.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/...ion-open-carry

Firearms will be banned within the Secret Service–protected Quicken Loans Arena, but guns will be permitted everywhere else at the site in accordance with Ohio state laws that prevent cities from imposing stricter gun-control laws, NPR reports. While canned goods and tennis balls are among the items banned by the R.N.C., the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms will not be abridged in the protest zones surrounding the convention floor.

[Ultralight]

Seems odd that they would ban them anywhere. I thought they always want more and more good guys packing.

[CathyA]

Seems odd that they would ban them anywhere. I thought they always want more and more good guys packing.

I Believe it was the mayor of Cleveland who asked for this since he has to keep order. And he'll probably get a lot of flack if anything happens.

[creaker]

Seems odd that they would ban them anywhere. I thought they always want more and more good guys packing.

It's interesting - it looks like the only thing you are allowed to bring into the area that could possibly be used to arm and defend yourself is a gun - and a gun is about the only thing that cannot be defined as a safety issue or danger to others:

http://www.ohio.com/polopoly_fs/1.68...strictions.pdf

) Within all Public Access Areas, the following items are prohibited
during the Convention Period:
(1) Lumber larger than 2” in width and ¼” thick, including supports
for signs;
(2) Metal, plastic, or other hard material larger than ¾” thick and
1/8” in wall thickness including pipe and tubing;
(3) Any air rifle, air pistol, paintball gun, blasting caps, switchblade
or automatic knife, knife having a blade two and one-half (2-1/2) inches in
length or longer, cestus, billy, blackjack, sword, saber, hatchet, axe, slingshot,
BB gun, pellet gun, wrist shot, blackjack, metal knuckles, nun chucks, mace,
iron buckle, axe handle, shovel, or other instrumentality used to cause
property or personal damage;
(4) Any dangerous ordinance, weapon, or firearm that is prohibited
by the laws of the State of Ohio;
(5) Any explosives, explosive device, or incendiary device;
(6) Fireworks and rockets;
(7) Sound Amplification Equipment;
(8) Drones and other unmanned aircraft systems;
(9) Containers of bodily fluids;
(10) Aerosol cans;
(11) Mace, Pepper Spray or other chemical irritant;
(12) Umbrellas with metal tips;
(13) Any projectile launchers, such as water guns and water cannons;
(14) Rope, chain, cable, strapping, wire, string, line, tape, or any
similar material, in lengths greater than 6’;
(15) Glass bottles, ornaments, light bulbs, ceramic vessels, and any
other frangible container, regardless of whether the container holds any
substance;
(16) Locks including, without limitation, padlocks, bicycle locking
devices, chain locks or similar devices, but not including: (i) an integral
component of a conveyance or structure; (ii) locks when utilized by the owner
of private real property to secure permanent or temporary fencing; or (iii)
locks attached to a bicycle;
(17) Any gas mask or similar device designed to filter all air breathed
by the wearer in an attempt to protect the respiratory tract and/or face
against irritating or noxious gasses or other materials. This prohibition on
gas masks shall not apply to any person wearing a medical oxygen mask that
fits over the nose and mouth of the person and provides oxygen from an
oxygen tank to the person;
(18) Tents and other shelters, sleeping bags, sleeping pads,
mattresses, cots, hammocks, bivy sacks, or stoves;
(19) Coolers or ice chests;
(20) Backpacks and bags exceeding the size of 18” x 13” x 7”;
(21) Lasers;
(22) Non-plastic containers, bottles, cans, or thermoses;
(23) Ladders;
(24) Grappling hooks, sledgehammers, hammers, and crowbars;
(25) Canned goods;
(26) Tennis balls; and
(27) Any other item determined by the Chief or Director to be a clear
and present danger to the safety of others.

[LDAHL]

It's interesting - it looks like the only thing you are allowed to bring into the area that could possibly be used to arm and defend yourself is a gun - and a gun is about the only thing that cannot be defined as a safety issue or danger to others:

http://www.ohio.com/polopoly_fs/1.68...strictions.pdf

) Within all Public Access Areas, the following items are prohibited
during the Convention Period:
(1) Lumber larger than 2” in width and ¼” thick, including supports
for signs;
(2) Metal, plastic, or other hard material larger than ¾” thick and
1/8” in wall thickness including pipe and tubing;
(3) Any air rifle, air pistol, paintball gun, blasting caps, switchblade
or automatic knife, knife having a blade two and one-half (2-1/2) inches in
length or longer, cestus, billy, blackjack, sword, saber, hatchet, axe, slingshot,
BB gun, pellet gun, wrist shot, blackjack, metal knuckles, nun chucks, mace,
iron buckle, axe handle, shovel, or other instrumentality used to cause
property or personal damage;
(4) Any dangerous ordinance, weapon, or firearm that is prohibited
by the laws of the State of Ohio;
(5) Any explosives, explosive device, or incendiary device;
(6) Fireworks and rockets;
(7) Sound Amplification Equipment;
(8) Drones and other unmanned aircraft systems;
(9) Containers of bodily fluids;
(10) Aerosol cans;
(11) Mace, Pepper Spray or other chemical irritant;
(12) Umbrellas with metal tips;
(13) Any projectile launchers, such as water guns and water cannons;
(14) Rope, chain, cable, strapping, wire, string, line, tape, or any
similar material, in lengths greater than 6’;
(15) Glass bottles, ornaments, light bulbs, ceramic vessels, and any
other frangible container, regardless of whether the container holds any
substance;
(16) Locks including, without limitation, padlocks, bicycle locking
devices, chain locks or similar devices, but not including: (i) an integral
component of a conveyance or structure; (ii) locks when utilized by the owner
of private real property to secure permanent or temporary fencing; or (iii)
locks attached to a bicycle;
(17) Any gas mask or similar device designed to filter all air breathed
by the wearer in an attempt to protect the respiratory tract and/or face
against irritating or noxious gasses or other materials. This prohibition on
gas masks shall not apply to any person wearing a medical oxygen mask that
fits over the nose and mouth of the person and provides oxygen from an
oxygen tank to the person;
(18) Tents and other shelters, sleeping bags, sleeping pads,
mattresses, cots, hammocks, bivy sacks, or stoves;
(19) Coolers or ice chests;
(20) Backpacks and bags exceeding the size of 18” x 13” x 7”;
(21) Lasers;
(22) Non-plastic containers, bottles, cans, or thermoses;
(23) Ladders;
(24) Grappling hooks, sledgehammers, hammers, and crowbars;
(25) Canned goods;
(26) Tennis balls; and
(27) Any other item determined by the Chief or Director to be a clear
and present danger to the safety of others.

I was wondering how you would "arm and defend yourself" with a ladder. But then I remembered seeing Jackie Chan do it pretty effectively.

[CathyA]

Q: Historically, how many Republican conventions have been held in open-carry states over the last, say, 50 years?

Q: What do the violent crime statistics look like, over the that time period?

Q: Do we have rule of law? Or do we interpret laws day-to-day based on our feelings and whatever social media trends are sweeping the infosphere?

I'm sure there are many more gun owners now. What I have trouble with is that the second amendment is soooo out of context now.

We could probably destroy our nation with most everyone being shot, and gun owners would still refuse to say there's a problem....and cite the 2nd amendment.
And I don't think the media made up all the shootings we're hearing about today. I just don't understand some of you. You're so utterly inflexible to do anything however small, for the good of the whole.
Bae.........you're the one who eats his raisin bran with his gun next to the bowl. Really?
This world has gotten just too crazy. Why stick to a part of the constitution that is adding to such grief in this country? Why not change the constitution, if it would lead to a better society?

[bae]

Bae.........you're the one who eats his raisin bran with his gun next to the bowl. Really?

Nope.

I don't eat raisin bran for breakfast.

And I keep my gun in a holster, not sitting on the table.

[CathyA]

I forgot........you eat nails.

[bae]

I forgot........you eat nails.

Pretty sure you're out of line there.