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    It’s a gift to help someone die. Even if you think they don’t know you are there the hearing is the last to go and I am sure they feel your touch and know you are there even if it doesn’t look like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Me too. If I could stay home and survive financially I would. But I am not independently wealthy nor do I have a retirement income. And some of the people critical of me are fortunate enough to have the option of working from home which I do not, or not working at all.
    Obviously, you must be an introvert or you would realize it is impossible to always stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    If you oppose the confinement of a burkha, and realize it is traumatic psychologically as well as physically, you should understand some of the objections to a mask.
    It is also psychologically traumatic to be stuck at home for days on end. Wear a mask and do social distancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    For those who have not read the linked article, it repeatedly states that there are not RCT's (randomized controlled trials) proving masks are effective for coronavirus. It says it "may have" a "partial effect" on viral shedding. A lot of this is namby-pamby. For example:

    If only sick people wear masks the sick people will feel bad and we can't have their feelings hurt by social stigma.
    Wearing a mask is a "signal of solidarity".
    Masks give people not claustrophobia and discomfort but "a feeling of empowerment and self-efficacy". Nice try but no cigar.
    oh honey, i think the social signaling is strong with the mask wearers.

    i wear a mask when i uave to interact with other humans (not DH) closer than 6 feet. So far that has been 2-3 times in 8 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    oh honey, i think the social signaling is strong with the mask wearers.

    i wear a mask when i uave to interact with other humans (not DH) closer than 6 feet. So far that has been 2-3 times in 8 weeks.
    I don't wear a mask when I'm out hiking or biking here in the rural areas, where I won't encounter anyone. I do have PPE with me if I do, but this is no change - I've carried a PPE kit with me for years that includes a mask.

    When I'm in the village, I don't wear a mask if I'm not interacting with anyone. If I am going to be going into a store, or walking on the sidewalk where stupid people are unable to maintain social distance, I put on the mask.

    I also use an N95 mask for this, which I wouldn't recommend for the casual user. But my concern is not just protecting others from me, where a simple cloth mask would suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Obviously, you must be an introvert or you would realize it is impossible to always stay home.
    Disagreeable - yes. Impossible - no. Calling for personal growth and development, learning to live with oneself in peace and not needing constant noise and activity to paper over one's anxieties - yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    It’s a gift to help someone die. Even if you think they don’t know you are there the hearing is the last to go and I am sure they feel your touch and know you are there even if it doesn’t look like it.
    My MIL knew I was there. Her eyes were starting to decompose (get holes in them) and I told her to shut her eyes, which she did. She heard me. I just wish I hadn't seen that. It did me no good. That is how I remember her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Disagreeable - yes. Impossible - no. Calling for personal growth and development, learning to live with oneself in peace and not needing constant noise and activity to paper over one's anxieties - yes.
    You have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously need to be away from people. It would do you good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    It’s a gift to help someone die. Even if you think they don’t know you are there the hearing is the last to go and I am sure they feel your touch and know you are there even if it doesn’t look like it.
    I have been present for many many deaths, and my impression is similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously need to be away from people. It would do you good.
    If you were talking Ebola where your organs liquefy and then you die, I don't think you would be so eager for people to be out and about but wearing protective gear. I think you would tell people they have to stay home even if they get bored or don't like it. The whole reason people think it is okay to go and about with just a mask now is that Covid is not that bad if you are not in a high risk group, one of the points I have been making all along. If you think it's bad for you stay home instead of trying to control everyone else who isn't high risk.

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