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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Covid particles are extremely small. Other stinky particles are larger. If you knew for sure that a person had covid would you spend long periods of time around them wearing any random cloth mask? I think not. Medical personnel don't. The reason is that only N95 masks specially fit to your face stop covid.
    Covid particles travel on spit droplets, not free by themselves. The 140 people who got their hair done in Missouri by two stylists with moderate symptom covid but didn't get the disease are surely glad those stylists weren't stupid selfish idiots but instead WORE THE DAMN MASKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I guess that’s why we had the great ‘operating room revolt of 1992’ when all the surgeons and OR nurses across the country decided to not wear masks at work for a month.
    I helped lead our Firefighter/EMT Union's strike a couple years back - carrying the 0.5 ounce masks just for patient care was too much of a burden, atop all of the 80 pounds of other gear we must wear. And the masks mess up our stylish moustaches.

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    We should probably have better masks than we do:

    https://hbr.org/2020/06/we-need-better-masks

    So yes we should have better masks.

    The defense production act should have been used to produce them, for healthcare workers first and then for everyone, months in now. But we live in a fail-state, so it's not happening, it should happen but it's not. If anything should cause one to go all libertarian or anarchists and then conclude "ok we have to handle this ourselves then without government" it would be the utter failures like this of our failstate - ok then we have to at least all wear masks ourselves (and this is the easy part - everything else is HARD to do without government - I mean I'd like to "go-fund-me" contract tracing at this point but ... maybe Bill Gates will help this under-developed country?).

    But no instead of seizing the moment, hey government IS failing us in most ways here (mind you I approve of the mask mandates but it's hard to say government in general has been handling things so well), we have ridiculous people going on about not wearing masks for vanity reasons, only proving that they themselves are incapable of voluntary pro-social action without being forced into it. So good on Newsom for the mask mandate , even if in general Cali is also a nation-failstate with regard to covid.
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    Masks are getting better--with HEPA filters and nose clips and adjustable straps. Some of them are surely at the upper end of effectiveness per available charts. And again, data shows they work.

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    N95 masks work for airborne (aerosolized) covid. This happens with patients on ventilators, with intubation, etc.

    The rest of covid is droplet spread and stopped by regular masks.

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    Tammy does aerosolization occur with dental procedures? My dentist has been trying to get me to come in for a cleaning but it seems a very unsafe environment to me right now. I would think dental drills release all sorts of spray from people's mouths into their offices.

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    Handy data visualization tool:

    https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Tammy does aerosolization occur with dental procedures?
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-settings.html

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    First time at church today since mid-March. 10 people only. Very well spaced out. We have chairs, not pews, and chairs were scattered about with something like 10ft in between. I was expected to sing through my mask. I ended that pretty quickly. Not gonna work. And then I was having one perpetual hot flash. I was sitting against the wall. I turned to the wall several times to pull my mask down to cool down. I got a talking to after the service for doing that.

    I’m maybe not going back until everything is fully open and no masks required.

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    I don't blame you Tradd. One thing I sometimes do is pull the mask under my nose so it only covers my mouth, which makes it a little easier to breathe, but I have not tried singing.

    Today I went to a couple of stores in western New Hampshire with no mask mandates. It was so liberating. I felt normal again. Everyone is going to be so happy when this is over. I wonder if there will be mask burning parties.

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