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    Tammy wishing you the best. I certainly wouldn’t want to be working in health care with this virus.

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    Tammy, God bless you for all you are doing, and may s/he keep you healthy and safe.
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    The thing is it's not just some typical limitation of resources, as far as I can tell, AZ is the only state in the U.S. that has activated crisis care standards so far, or ever in U.S. history, more could of course, so it's not just "oh that's the way things are". It happened in Italy of course. Really shouldn't let the virus get so out of hand to be at this point, at that point it's not even controlled spread (which of course may not be possible anyway) but uncontrolled where you have literally overwhelmed the hospital system, ie the worst case scenario.

    Healthcare workers sometimes have PPE so might be in less danger than many who don't, as the grocery store worker doesn't, the meatpacker doesn't, etc., of course healthcare workers also sometimes don't either as we know, due to chronic shortages! But if you're having to follow crisis standards about who to even try to save that can cause a whole psychological toll of it's own, never mind people suffer and die even if you have the resources to treat everyone as best as we are able, and even all the other states that have not activated "crisis care standards" it seems are running low on what somewhat effective therapeutics like Remdesevar exist. The results of this thing will be with us for a long time even if we had a perfect vaccine soon.
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    Whatever happened to the Defense Production Act, which was supposed to deploy factories to manufacture PPE? We should be knee-deep in masks and gowns and shields by now. Instead, medical personnel are still rationing these items. We're number one (in unnecessary deaths).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    Sounds like those "death panels" people were talking about a few years ago. But single-payer health coverage for everyone doesn't exist so this must be happening with ... private insurance? How can that be???


    https://www.delish.com/uk/cocktails-...ffee-podsdeath /
    my thoughts exactly. If you cannot afford to see a physician, high blood pressure and diabetes, for example, easily can be out of control. And getting covid along with these uncontrolled comorbidities would put you on the wrong side of The Who lives and who dies equation.
    the poor health care workers who must make these heart wrenching decisions must be having nightmares. And I expect we will see lots of PTSD as well as soaring healthcare premiums when this is finally over. Someone has to pay for the insurance company workers, shiny fancy building, their computers, paperwork they must send out etc. and they will be bailed out of course. if anyone thinks this mess will be over a few months after a vaccine comes up, think again.
    Why are we still hearing about shortages of PPE, testing, and equipment seven months in? Our government has failed us. No worries they can get tested every day and Jared will just run to “their” stockpile for whatever they need. He made it clear it’s not the states stockpile. So the hell with the taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    Sounds like those "death panels" people were talking about a few years ago. But single-payer health coverage for everyone doesn't exist so this must be happening with ... private insurance? How can that be???


    https://www.delish.com/uk/cocktails-...ffee-podsdeath /
    Steve, did you post the friend coffee pods link? I am confused--why does it say "podsdeath"? When you click it, you get to a coffee pod thing.

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    Plus here is a good one

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...s-workers-comp

    front line workers are fighting for covid workers comp. money over lives.

    All the insurance systems, from health to ambulance chasers to workers comp are a disgrace. We should be ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Plus here is a good one

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...s-workers-comp

    front line workers are fighting for covid workers comp. money over lives.

    All the insurance systems, from health to ambulance chasers to workers comp are a disgrace. We should be ashamed.
    Reason #4052 why we need a universal healthcare system like all the civilized countries of the world have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Steve, did you post the friend coffee pods link? I am confused--why does it say "podsdeath"? When you click it, you get to a coffee pod thing.
    Weird thing. I use a program on my Mac that simplifies keystrokes. So if I type teh and follow it with a space, it automatically corrects it to the . Quotation marks are part of the program, too. Cool stuff and it's probably saved me enough time over the years to knit a sweater. But at one point yesterday every time I hit the left quotation mark, it jumped to a new line and printed the quotation mark and the phrase okra cury, which was in my clipboard. I saw it when I posted and edited it out. I don't know how coffee pods ended up in there except that I was copying the URL for an article about Friends- (Central Perk-)themed coffee pods for our daughter (who is crazy about Friends ... but not about coffee ). Because of that and some other browser weirdnesses, I shut down the browser and started it up again and things seem to be behaving today.

    So, with that mild comic relief, I return you to your regularly-scheduled forum. I'm going to edit out the URL.

    ETA Tammy I'm sorry you are going through so much with this illness... It's hard enough to fight; people don't have to be stupid around it and make your job worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    Weird thing. I use a program on my Mac that simplifies keystrokes. So if I type teh and follow it with a space, it automatically corrects it to the . Quotation marks are part of the program, too. Cool stuff and it's probably saved me enough time over the years to knit a sweater. But at one point yesterday every time I hit the left quotation mark, it jumped to a new line and printed the quotation mark and the phrase okra cury, which was in my clipboard. I saw it when I posted and edited it out. I don't know how coffee pods ended up in there except that I was copying the URL for an article about Friends- (Central Perk-)themed coffee pods for our daughter (who is crazy about Friends ... but not about coffee ). Because of that and some other browser weirdnesses, I shut down the browser and started it up again and things seem to be behaving today.

    So, with that mild comic relief, I return you to your regularly-scheduled forum. I'm going to edit out the URL.

    ETA Tammy I'm sorry you are going through so much with this illness... It's hard enough to fight; people don't have to be stupid around it and make your job worse.
    Now THAT is funny. I was afraid you had been co-opted somehow.

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