From your link.
Most of the figures cited are accurate and the general thrust of the claim is valid: The pandemic has produced staggeringly high daily death counts that reached 3,411 on Dec. 9
From your link.
Most of the figures cited are accurate and the general thrust of the claim is valid: The pandemic has produced staggeringly high daily death counts that reached 3,411 on Dec. 9
I would not want to draw any hard comparisons to modern times, but for a point of interest you might recall the diseases that the Europeans, who had some sort of natural immunity, introduced to the native Americans. Measles, small pox, flu, etc. that wiped out what some claim was 95% of their population in a relatively short time. I guess the curve did go down eventually. In the case of the Spanish flu virus which seems to have mutated in a less virulent form, I suspect there is not guarantee that Covid could actually mutate into a more virulent form.Originally Posted by Yppej
What matters is that the fewer people who are infected the fewer who will die either directly or indirectly from exposure. And they are saying the vaccines is that it will reduce the number infected. Fewer infected=fewer deaths. I don't think we will know what numbers constitute herd immunity until we are there.
I think the vaccines are a good idea, but strongly disagree with those who say even if you get vaccinated - or everyone gets vaccinated - life must continue to be restricted. Why get the vaccines then? Because in some far corner of the planet one person might die from a virus that lies dormant but never dies?
If one percent seems like a low death rate it’s actually 3.4 million people in our country alone. My friend that died probably had 15-20 years left if it wasn’t for the virus.
That’s not what’s going to be asked. But by all means carry on griping about masks.
Unless, of course, if that one person that might die is you?
You complain about wearing a mask, you complain about people who don't wear masks... you really don't seem to make much sense at all.
Here's hoping you stay safe and healthy AND don't make anyone else sick or dead.
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I think this is an excellent article, arguing for individual liberty, common sense, and local solutions rather than paranoia by public health "experts" tyrannizing us. And yes, some of them do want us to wear masks forever:
https://reason.com/2020/12/04/epidem...ew-york-times/
Whence do you derive your "expertise", Yppej?
Where did you go to medical school? Did you study epidemiology, public health, virology, anything? Practice professionally? Author any publications? Consult in the field? Testify as an expert witness?
Surely you must have some serious chops, since you are throwing stones.
I have faith in what you call "experts." Not unquestioning, blind faith, but I believe they know far more than I do about infectious diseases. Do you consider Anthony Fauci a fraud? Laurie Garrett?
We need to maintain caution until we've reached the infection level of countries that have come through this pandemic better than we have. And/or we figure out how much immunity the vaccine buys us. This may require mask-wearing.
The two vaccines coming to market soonest are 95% effective. Masks should only be needed for those who are not vaccinated. Being able to ditch the mask would be an incentive to get the shot. But it is about control, not health.
I tell you, if my parents get the vaccine as soon as they are 12 days past their second shots I will give them big hugs, first time since March. I believe vaccines work, I am not an anti-vaxxer.
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