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    Why isn’t California doing better? Haven’t things been pretty much locked down, at least for most people. Is the leadership out there not doing their job?

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ath-record-442

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    Why isn’t California doing better? Haven’t things been pretty much locked down, at least for most people. Is the leadership out there not doing their job?
    I was waiting for somebody to mention this.

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    Some parts of California leadership has been good. San Francisco county has had 184 deaths from a population of just under 1m. By far the worst bay area county is Marin at 541 deaths per million. That's certainly far better than the 1,041 deaths per million nationwide, or the rate in a variety of states like ND at 1,885 per million or KS at 955 deaths per million, or SD at 1,777 or Florida at 1,123 per million.

    Looking at random countries around the world it's very clear that effective national leadership played/is playing a big role in how this pandemic affected them. And that leadership needs to be at the federal level. When you have millions and millions of people traveling all over the country to kill off their family and friends for the holidays there's only so much local leaders can do to slow the spread. There's simply no other rational explanation for why Sweden has 844 deaths per million but Norway and Finland are at 66 and 101, or Australia at 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    There doesn’t seem to be any shortage of grave dancing out there.
    That is a terrible thing to say.

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    Watched an interesting 60 Minutes episode a few weeks ago. They interviewed an early 40+ year old doctor who was working with people her age or younger who had contracted the virus. These people were called “long haulers”. The interviewer asked her if these symptoms were all in their heads? Her response was “then it is in my head too”. The shocking thing was that from the time this show was filmed to the time it aired, this 40ish doctor died from a heart attack! My point being.. people of all ages are being affected .. not necessarily dying but having continual complications.

    It is disgusting that the trump administration knew how deadly this virus was as far back as last January and downplayed it ... hoping for herd immunity??? It sure backfired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    There doesn’t seem to be any shortage of grave dancing out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    That is a terrible thing to say.
    No, it's a terrible thing to do, showing disapproval of the practice is the right and proper response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    No, it's a terrible thing to do, showing disapproval of the practice is the right and proper response.
    Who are you suggesting is doing this? I don’t think anyone here. The only remarks I see are those stating the obvious.... wear a mask and don’t attend large gatherings.

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    Depends what you mean by locked down. Malls open, allegedly with limited capacity but doesn't seem enforced. Non-essential retail open, allegedly with limited capacity but not enforced (truthfully some retail is not doing well enough to exceed capacity anyway - so only for some places is capacity even a actual issue). Grocery stores, open of course, allegedly with capacity restrictions, I have not seen it, been a bit crowded and I go off hours, so capacity restrictions yea I don't know if anyone is enforcing that. Indoor and outdoor dining and bars are closed, some may be operating illegally but that is a clear-cut law and most obey it. Personal services closed, I've seen illegal operations, but again a clear-cut law. Indoor gyms closed but outdoor gyms packed and have tent roofs and chain link fences, probably very little air flow (it's one of those things that no studies have been done on transmission, but that sets off all my spidey senses as being unsafe). Schools, some public schools are closed but many exceptions granted for special needs etc., private schools open. Airports? Wide open.

    I think maybe it's just our turn, since just about every part of the country was hit hard at some point. I mean if you look at the areas affected in California it's basically a correlation with poverty. However every part of the country has had their turn. Of course on the off chance it's because we have the more contagious strain then right about now the whole country will. Because people traveled for xmas, the usual empty streets, so if we had more of a worse strain it's coming to a place near you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I was waiting for somebody to mention this.
    I've mentioned it several times as evidence that a mask mandate doesn't stop covid, once in the summer and once recently. I'm not on your Ignore List am I?

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