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    President Perry

    Watch Tx Rep. Lloyd Doggett warn about the toxic hazard that is Rick Perry.


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    The problem is that Obama is such a weak President that many have a shot. Many warned that he was just an empty suit, and they were correct. It is nice that he has cut taxes more that Bush, except I thought SS was in trouble. But he also is spending more than Bush. And the only jobs he seams to create are government jobs that don't produce anything but reliable votes.

    I think many are getting tired of his whining and laying blame on everyone but himself. He needs to grow a pair.

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    Those are really sad education statistics for TX.

    Were they that bad under George W or did they decline under Perry?

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    Mountain laurel - demographics have a GREAT deal to do with education statistics in Texas...people I talk education with who are from predominantly white or higher socio-economic states do not understand that it is not an apples to apples comparison. I realize we rank near the bottom in spending per student, true, but there are many other factors at play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    The problem is that Obama is such a weak President that many have a shot. Many warned that he was just an empty suit, and they were correct. It is nice that he has cut taxes more that Bush, except I thought SS was in trouble. But he also is spending more than Bush. And the only jobs he seams to create are government jobs that don't produce anything but reliable votes.

    I think many are getting tired of his whining and laying blame on everyone but himself. He needs to grow a pair.
    I have my own problems with Obama. I have never shyed away from saying it BUT with someone like Perry (and Bush II before him) you are talking right-wing extremism. There is no way around the fact that he hates regulation in every aspect, he has a long history of being in the back pocket of corporations at the expense of Texas citizens, and I think really believes that simply praying will solve most of our problems. A minimum wage job or below will never solve our jobs problem and that is exactly the job growth in Texas that he loves to tout when campaigning.

    When we elect extremists bad things happen. No matter what name those that dislike Obama might say, he is by no means an extremist. Perry on the other hand has a clear record of extremism.

    I know people like to think that we can cut, cut, cut budget items wily nily and it will have little effect on their lives but that is just not true. We need to cut the fraud from most of our government funded programs to solve the problems and that would include them all including SS, Medicare, and Defense - not the draconian measure that the Tea Party suggest. I do separate the Tea Party from the GOP in that regard but at the present time it seems they are in control.

    Any Texan will tell you that you cannot trust Rick Perry - he is all about Rick Perry and his corporate donors.

    Our problem is that we have come to trust institutions, business and government, more than ourselves. If something seems wrong it probably is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    Mountain laurel - demographics have a GREAT deal to do with education statistics in Texas...people I talk education with who are from predominantly white or higher socio-economic states do not understand that it is not an apples to apples comparison. I realize we rank near the bottom in spending per student, true, but there are many other factors at play.
    Demographics huh? Are you saying Texans are stupid? That would explain both George Bush and Rick Perry as governors, but I think most Texans would take exception to that description. Maybe the poor investment in education attracts only the poorest teachers.

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    Ahh Peggy...excellent display of projectile venom spew....No, I'm not saying Texans are stupid. We serve a very high population of students for whom English is not their first language, students whose parents are illiterate or not educated past a grade school level, etc, etc. This is largely due to the fact that many are first generation Americans. Why? Gee, I don't know...maybe they come to Texas because we have JOBS!!!! Texans are not stupid, au contraire madam, they are quite independent, resilient and hard-working...some just don't have as even a start as others.

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    Perry looks so good because the rest of the Republican field is so weak. Huntsman seems interesting, but like Romney he is Mormon and doesn't stand a chance with the rabid Christian right.

    In every presidential election I would prefer to see each party select the best possible candidate so whoever wins, the country has a better chance. But Rick Perry? He may look the part, but no thanks. I want a president in the WH, not a preacher.

    I heard something on tv the other day that made real sense. The Republicans now hate goverment and everything about it so much, that there simply are too few on the right who think politics is an honorable profession, so qualified people seek employment elsewhere. As proof, look at the current GOP crop.

    Looking back over recent GOP nominees, McCain (too old + Palin), Bob Dole and Bush-I were relatively mainstream, and before them Reagan. But look who is running now? Ack!!!
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    Just for you, ZZMan...I like this take from an editor way up here in SW WA State:

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/a...s-hat-in-ring/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwoman View Post
    Ahh Peggy...excellent display of projectile venom spew....No, I'm not saying Texans are stupid. We serve a very high population of students for whom English is not their first language, students whose parents are illiterate or not educated past a grade school level, etc, etc. This is largely due to the fact that many are first generation Americans. Why? Gee, I don't know...maybe they come to Texas because we have JOBS!!!! Texans are not stupid, au contraire madam, they are quite independent, resilient and hard-working...some just don't have as even a start as others.
    Projectile venom spew? Wow, you really know how to kill a joke, don't you. I'll bet you are a laugh riot at parties.
    No, some don't have as even a start as others, but isn't that true of every state? Doesn't every state have poverty, illiteracy, and first generation Americans? If you want poverty, go to W. Virginia. And I'm thinking California has more first generation Americans than Texas. So this all still doesn't explain how Texas is so horrible in education. If a dog catcher in Tim Buck Two sneezes you blame Obama for giving him a cold. So, in all fairness I'm going to blame the leadership in Texas. It's that or the teachers.
    When I went through school in Texas, the state was known for good schools. So what happened? Republicans George Bush and Rick Perry happened. So you get an ignorant Governor who actually thinks Texas has the right to succeed from the Union. A man who hates government so much he's desperate to run it.

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