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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Desantis just signed a pro-covid bill that bans localities or individual businesses from trying to keep people safe so maybe we’ll get to also be concerned about Florida.
    The difference is Florida has vaccines. The problem in India is not "la la la, I don't want a vaccine". They don't have enough vaccines.

    But it's all old people so who cares yeppej would say. But only about 5% of the population of India is 65 and older.
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    2 of my sons vacationed in India and said while it’s a beautiful country the poverty is unimaginable. The water and air are very polluted. I have no desire to visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Desantis just signed a pro-covid bill that bans localities or individual businesses from trying to keep people safe so maybe we’ll get to also be concerned about Florida.
    I believe his executive order simply cancels all existing covid orders and bans businesses from requiring a covid passport to enter. So, it essentially opens Florida up effective July 1st, which I believe is the same time New York plans to open. Is New York pro covid?

    Here in Ohio the plan is to re-open the state once covid cases reach a 50 per 100,000 person mark. We're currently at just under 150 per 100,000 so we may possibly open even earlier than Florida. Yahoo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I believe his executive order simply cancels all existing covid orders and bans businesses from requiring a covid passport to enter. So, it essentially opens Florida up effective July 1st, which I believe is the same time New York plans to open. Is New York pro covid?

    Here in Ohio the plan is to re-open the state once covid cases reach a 50 per 100,000 person mark. We're currently at just under 150 per 100,000 so we may possibly open even earlier than Florida. Yahoo!
    Yahoo! huh? I understood herd immunity to be over 70%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    2 of my sons vacationed in India and said while it’s a beautiful country the poverty is unimaginable. The water and air are very polluted. I have no desire to visit.
    It is a beautiful place and, yes, very poor and polluted. Visiting there changed my perspective and I am very happy I went.

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    The difference between Florida and New York are that the Florida law states July 1st but the desantis exec order states open everything today. Secondly I’m not aware that New York forbids businesses requiring vaccination of either employees or customers. The devil is in the details, as is often the case. And in this case the devil is in Tallahassee not Albany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    The difference between Florida and New York are that the Florida law states July 1st but the desantis exec order states open everything today.
    Aren't New York, New Jersey and Connecticut doing the same in just under two weeks? Maybe you can bring us up to speed on the details and differences?
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    Probably the most significant difference is that NY is creating a vaccine passport so that businesses who choose to will have the freedom to keep their employees and other customers safer while Florida has outlawed vaccine passports because they believe the freedom to risk other people’s health is more important. I haven’t looked but would be surprised to learn that CT and/or NJ were planning to follow the Florida model.

    I wonder when Florida is going to make it illegal for businesses to require that people where shoes and shirts when entering their establishment?

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    2 weeks also of course matters as vaccines have not been widely available for long, so until everyone who wants a vaccine has had a second shot more or less and that is a matter of timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Probably the most significant difference is that NY is creating a vaccine passport so that businesses who choose to will have the freedom to keep their employees and other customers safer while Florida has outlawed vaccine passports because they believe the freedom to risk other people’s health is more important.
    So NY is creating a passport but not requiring its usage. I wonder how many businesses will refuse to sell products or provide services to anyone without one? I'm betting none outside of perhaps school districts.

    Do you think we should have a nationwide law requiring vaccine passports in order to do civic things, like perhaps voting?
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