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    Even in Vermont, which is #1 in lowest number of cases in the lower 48, and in the highest proportion of vaccinations, life seems almost "normal." Most places do not require masks but businesses will recommend masks for the unvaccinated. The hospital obviously requires masks everywhere. When I go into various businesses, I see that maybe 25-30% are wearing masks.

    I feel safer and happier to be in Vermont when I know that more than three-quarters of us have been fully vaccinated. The governor has governed wisely. It's not a matter of government edicts or being maskholes--it's common sense, and a desire to work together for the common good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I feel safer and happier to be in Vermont when I know that more than three-quarters of us have been fully vaccinated. The governor has governed wisely. It's not a matter of government edicts or being maskholes--it's common sense, and a desire to work together for the common good.
    Congrats Catherine. I'm so jealous. The Trump contingency in an overwhelmingly Red state are already saying if doorknockers are on their doorstep about vaccines, they will shoot.

    Vaccine rate in Red states is pathetic. 3 major health employers announced today that employees have mandated vaccines just like the flu. It's going to be interesting to hear what the attrition will be.

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    I'm quite sure we'd be too disorganized to ever arrange to have doorknockers, that would require functional government no? Well so much for that. Oh I hear 2000 people on the state level have been employed to do this, only 40 million people in the state, this will work for sure. I really don't think there was the will to really push this one past the finish line as there should have been nationally and locally.

    Hence vaccinations are pretty much topped out, though the numbers aren't actually terrible, not quite 70% here.

    About 70% of people anywhere I go are still wearing masks. I'm usually not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    Congrats Catherine. I'm so jealous. The Trump contingency in an overwhelmingly Red state are already saying if doorknockers are on their doorstep about vaccines, they will shoot.

    Vaccine rate in Red states is pathetic. 3 major health employers announced today that employees have mandated vaccines just like the flu. It's going to be interesting to hear what the attrition will be.
    Don't you think the numbers will go up once the various vaccines receive formal FDA approval rather than the emergency usage approval they currently enjoy? I wonder what's taking so long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Don't you think the numbers will go up once the various vaccines receive formal FDA approval rather than the emergency usage approval they currently enjoy? I wonder what's taking so long?
    I don't think that the majority of vaccine-hesitant people are not getting vaccinated because of issues related to FDA approval. I think it's politics and distrust of science. Most people don't know the nuances of FDA approvals.
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    We have an Alzheimer's drug that may not even work that just got FDA approval, and meanwhile have vaccines that clearly work with very few problems reported, that don't have FDA approval.

    I do wish Norovax would get the okay for U.S. emergency use. I've been vaxed (taking my chances with the virus or the vaccine was NOT a hard choice), but some might be skeptical of mRNA, maybe more than are waiting for FDA approval. And it's seems to be a very good non mRNA vaccine, might even make a good booster, although we may not need them.
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    It seems that any and all Alzheimer drugs--no matter how patently ineffective they are--will always be approved. They're sure moneymakers, after all.

    It was a no-brainer for me to get vaccinated against COVID, though--as I told my vaccinator--I don't remember the last time I got an injection. Adolescence, probably. Weighing the effects of COVID against any possible side-effects of a vaccine made it an easy choice.

    I'm skeptical of the efficacy of door-knockers myself--what rational person would risk being shot or even harassed to undertake such a task, anyway?

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    What are “doorknockers.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    First time in an airport since last March. The number of maskholes is surprising. Roughly a third of the men and a sixth of the women either have their nose out or think covid is transmitted through the chin.
    hunh. And here you are, putting yourself in proximity to thousands of people in an enclosed building and then sliding yourself into a packed-like-sardines steel tube to fly through the sky.

    i guess this was a life or death situation to cause this travel. Someone must be on their deathbed, so sorry to hear this.

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    No door-knockers here yet but DH got a letter in the mail urging him to get vaccinated. Apparently, the state health dept knows who has or hasn't been vaccinated. I no longer talk with him about it but often think about the possible consequences of his decision. He always said he would get one when it was finally approved and there may be many others who feel that way.

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