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    Fauci is a bully who has destroyed the careers of anyone who dared cross him or question his unethical experiments including on 3 day old babies who could not give consent and who were in the foster care system so their parents could not give consent, on mothers and babies subjected to horrific experiments in Uganda, on defenseless beagles in North Africa, and the list goes on. I have a feeling that if he were removed the pall of fear would be lifted and whistleblowers would come forward just like happened in the Soviet Union after Stalin died.

    For now we have to rely on information from other countries like New Zealand which reported a vaccine death in a young man who given his age probably would never have died of covid. I love my country but New Zealand sure looks good about now.

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    You might have had some time to reflect during their 90 day lock down, if the vaccines didn't get you first. Fauci is everywhere. Have you checked on that unusual shadow in your closet at night.

    Its biggest city Auckland has been in lockdown for over 90 days, although some measures were eased recently.
    "The hard truth is that Delta is here and not going away, but New Zealand is well set to tackle it because of our high vaccination rates and our latest safety measures including the traffic light system and Vaccine Pass," Ardern said in a statement.

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    There's no evidence Dr. Fauci had anything to do with the beagle experiments, other than his association with the NIH ;

    'Research conducted on behalf of NIAID is funded in large part through annual funds allocated by Congress and the president, though direct projects may be signed off on by various leaders within NIH. However, there is no evidence that the grant was personally approved by Fauci and there is no mention of him in the FOIA documentation. All that we can definitively say is that at least some of the money came from NIH."
    (Snopes)

    I suspect most of the anti-Fauci stuff found on line is similarly sketchy, but I'm not interested in pursuing it further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
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    Yppej's amplification and promotion of misinformation and agitprop is quite helpful for the rest of us. It's hard to imagine normal people being this vile, misinformed, deliberately disruptive, or deranged, so it is a useful touchstone.

    If you look at what has been happening to public health officials nationwide, well, you'd see Yppej's words for what they are. Shame, shame, shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Fauci is a bully who has destroyed the careers of anyone who dared cross him or question his unethical experiments including on 3 day old babies who could not give consent and who were in the foster care system so their parents could not give consent, on mothers and babies subjected to horrific experiments in Uganda, on defenseless beagles in North Africa, and the list goes on. I have a feeling that if he were removed the pall of fear would be lifted and whistleblowers would come forward just like happened in the Soviet Union after Stalin died.

    For now we have to rely on information from other countries like New Zealand which reported a vaccine death in a young man who given his age probably would never have died of covid. I love my country but New Zealand sure looks good about now.
    I have been following the American singer/ songwriter Amanda Palmer on FB where she is in New Zealand. She was on tour and got stuck there in 2020 . She describes it as very hard with their lockdowns. I don’t think you would be happy there either. Maybe follow her an FB and read what it’s like

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    There's no evidence Dr. Fauci had anything to do with the beagle experiments, other than his association with the NIH ;

    'Research conducted on behalf of NIAID is funded in large part through annual funds allocated by Congress and the president, though direct projects may be signed off on by various leaders within NIH. However, there is no evidence that the grant was personally approved by Fauci and there is no mention of him in the FOIA documentation. All that we can definitively say is that at least some of the money came from NIH."
    (Snopes)

    I suspect most of the anti-Fauci stuff found on line is similarly sketchy, but I'm not interested in pursuing it further.
    The buck stops with the boss. What did actions did he take against the beagles researchers when he found out?

    Compare that to the actions he took against those who pointed out the emperor had no clothes after he killed thousands of people with high doses of AZT, including asymptomatic people. AZT doses were so toxic chemo patients didn't receive it for more than a couple weeks. The high death counts from AIDS were inflated by healthy people dying prematurely because the cure was deadlier than the disease, but those who pointed this out were shunned and lost their grants and, unless they were tenured at a university, their jobs. The beagle torturers did not.

    Now we repeat the cycle with the promotion of toxic remdesivir for covid-19 instead of safer, cheaper, non patented medications.

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    The jury is in on the best approach to covid:

    US deaths per million - 2,418.09

    Sweden deaths per million - 1,476.94

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Yppej's amplification and promotion of misinformation and agitprop is quite helpful for the rest of us. It's hard to imagine normal people being this vile, misinformed, deliberately disruptive, or deranged, so it is a useful touchstone.

    If you look at what has been happening to public health officials nationwide, well, you'd see Yppej's words for what they are. Shame, shame, shame.
    Fauci has said that his death threats and threats of violence have increased since RFK Jr.'s book. I suspect there is an element among RFK Jr.'s subscribers and Fox that extends into, and fuels the anti science movement. And not to mention threats to other health officials.

    I understand many of RFK Jr's family are distancing themselves from him due to his anti science stance. He's not just anti Fauci but also your basic overall anti-vaxxer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    The jury is in on the best approach to covid:

    US deaths per million - 2,418.09

    Sweden deaths per million - 1,476.94
    Finland - 270

    Norway - 225

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    I see Japan has not caught the omicron wave because it has kept its borders largely closed.

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