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    I don't think the FDAs approval process before was some kind of ideal, so why should I regard deviation from it as that horrible? At this point the original vaccine has been used safely on billions of people, so there isn't much more to be said about it's relative safety.

    But on the FDA, it is much slower to approve drugs than in say Europe. And this is NOT a net benefit IMO. It's too bureaucratic. Do we need an agency regulating drugs? Absolutely. Is the present FDA ideal? I don't think so, it is too slow. But then is the U.S. as it currently is capable of reforming institutions, not dismantling or bulldozing them in a fit, sure we can do that, but reforming? I don't think so really. So we'll probably just have to live with the FDA as it is. There are exceptions to it being too slow to approve drugs, like it approving an Alzheimer's drug that likely doesn't even work, but I don't even know what corruption that was.
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    I thought that was an odd, Trump-worthy speech the President gave Thursday. Bathed in red light like the throne room in Mordor. Using marines as props. Alternately making accusations with clenched fists and claiming to bring the country together. Insisting afterward that the speech was “non-political”.

    I’m not sure what he was trying to accomplish. Distract from other issues? Rally his base? Provoke an equally overheated response?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I thought that was an odd, Trump-worthy speech the President gave Thursday. Bathed in red light like the throne room in Mordor. Using marines as props. Alternately making accusations with clenched fists and claiming to bring the country together. Insisting afterward that the speech was “non-political”.

    I’m not sure what he was trying to accomplish. Distract from other issues? Rally his base? Provoke an equally overheated response?
    I streamed it live and was quite impressed. Being a fan of history, I think he captured the tone and optics of another historical speech given in Nuremberg back in 1938. I'm not sure that was his goal, but it seemed spot on to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Insisting afterward that the speech was “non-political”.
    Being in favor of maintaining democracy is now "partisan". I honestly didn't expect an entire political party to be comfortable saying that out loud during my life. Interesting times we live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I thought that was an odd, Trump-worthy speech the President gave Thursday. Bathed in red light like the throne room in Mordor. Using marines as props. Alternately making accusations with clenched fists and claiming to bring the country together. Insisting afterward that the speech was “non-political”.

    I’m not sure what he was trying to accomplish. Distract from other issues? Rally his base? Provoke an equally overheated response?
    I keep hearing about this speech, first time when one of my Republican voting friends walked by me while I was weeding my city community garden space and asked me if I felt evil and was I bad for America? I didn’t know what she was talking about, but later figured out she was referencing President Biden’s speech. It must be a doozy.

    Perhaps the Biden apologists here could tell us what the point of that was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I streamed it live and was quite impressed. Being a fan of history, I think he captured the tone and optics of another historical speech given in Nuremberg back in 1938. I'm not sure that was his goal, but it seemed spot on to me.

    Whoah. That is visually arresting! Props to his set designers.

    I wonder if this is some new effort, kicking off a two year campaign to put him in the White House next time around, showing us old sleepy Joe is in fact a force to be reckoned with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Whoah. That is visually arresting! Props to his set designers.

    I wonder if this is some new effort, kicking off a two year campaign to put him in the White House next time around, showing us old sleepy Joe is in fact a force to be reckoned with.
    Considering how much of his legislative agenda has been passed it's pretty obvious that a) he's not sleepy (which isn't surprising since it's republicans that are pro-sleepy/anti-woke) and b) he's a force to be reckoned with.

    It also doesn't hurt him that the only people who particularly like the republican anti-democracy agenda are die hard trump supporters and a few other diehard republicans who falsely believe that the party is somehow going to one day shed MAGA and go back to being just pro-rich people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I wonder if this is some new effort, kicking off a two year campaign to put him in the White House next time around, showing us old sleepy Joe is in fact a force to be reckoned with.
    Sort of my read. I suspect it's something his marketing people came up with, if that's what they are called in politics. They probably got some pointers from Trump speeches on how to demonize people, too.

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    Should we not be demonizing people who want to overturn elections when they don't turn out as one would like? Because frankly, in my opinion those shitbags and their elected enablers need to be ****ing demonized to hell and back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Sort of my read. I suspect it's something his marketing people came up with, if that's what they are called in politics. They probably got some pointers from Trump speeches on how to demonize people, too.
    Out Trumping Trump is not a winning formula for America. Makes me sad.

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