LGBT rights in the USA today...

[jp1]

No, I was thinking about the other guy you ranted about, the one who visited the Pelosi home in his underwear. I must have become confused at your cadre of favorite Republican/Republican influenced baddies.

And, I didn't claim he was a greenie, his son did, I was just passing it along for your consideration.

So is he a greenie or isn’t he? Why would you post about him being a greenie if even you didn’t believe it?

Do you have a link to share so we can see what led to your post? You republicans are so desperate to claim that every ugly person who attacks a democrat is actually a fellow democrat that I can’t keep up with the silliness. Pro tip-the whole maga screeching that every bad person is really Antifa is just pathetic and silly and only other magas believe it.

[LDAHL]

You’d probably do better to teach him to hide deep deep in the closet and learn how to present as cis. Otherwise he's: going to live life as a target just like every other LGBTQ person in America. Being comfortable in one’s skin isn’t particularly helpful for remaining safe when the Republican hate speech fueled bullies come into one’s safe spaces and start firing guns indiscriminately.

I don’t think it would be in his character to cower in some closet for fear of homicidal Republicans lurking in the shadows. I’m trying to teach him not to believe in such simplistic, ideological fables.

Between the angertainment industry and the need to sustain the outrage needed to keep the woke worldview alive, we have reached the point where the available supply of bigotry is unable to meet the burgeoning demand. Therefore every sad incident must be strip mined to fuel the narrative. “Hate” must be defined down to anything that doesn’t support a certain agenda. That’s why we lead the world in hate crime hoaxes. He’s smart enough to get that.

And Alan is correct about his environmental and political views, which I have every hope he will leave behind as he matures. But he is able to make the distinction between a viewpoint difference and a deadly threat.

[early morning]

I don’t think it would be in his character to cower in some closet for fear of homicidal Republicans lurking in the shadows. I’m trying to teach him not to believe in such simplistic, ideological fables.

And it is stupid to pretend no such threat exists. My youngest is trans. They do not "cower" but they know where problems are likely to arise. They have never yet been threatened or harmed by a person of a more liberal persuasion. Those who have threatened or attempted harm (we may be "woke liberals" but we're a gun-toting liberal family - not an unusual thing in our neck of the woods) have been hard right-wingers, each and every one. Please don't let your ideology imperil your child's safety. There is a REAL threat to trans people, and to deny that is foolish.

[LDAHL]

And it is stupid to pretend no such threat exists. My youngest is trans. They do not "cower" but they know where problems are likely to arise. They have never yet been threatened or harmed by a person of a more liberal persuasion. Those who have threatened or attempted harm (we may be "woke liberals" but we're a gun-toting liberal family - not an unusual thing in our neck of the woods) have been hard right-wingers, each and every one. Please don't let your ideology imperil your child's safety. There is a REAL threat to trans people, and to deny that is foolish.

I’m not saying there’s no threat at all, but as risks go it’s not a very significant one compared to many others. I think there are parties with an ideological incentive to exaggerate this particular one. People who insist that bad things happen because we don’t shut bad people up.

[jp1]

Statistically LDAHL is right. The likelihood of any one LGBTQ person getting shot by someone inspired by the current republican hatred of LGBTQ people is low. But by his logic it probably also doesn't make sense to wear a seatbelt. Statistically most people aren't going to be involved in a crash that would kill them if they weren't wearing a seatbelt. Yet most of us put on that seatbelt anyway, and encourage our loved ones to do the same, because we understand that it's something we can do to reduce the already small likelihood of death to an even smaller likelihood. If I could do something to make one of my loved ones a little bit safer, like calling out people who weaponize hatred against LGBTQ people I would do that too.

[iris lilies]

I was shocked to hear Chris Beck, former Navy Seal who transitioned to be Kristen Beck a decade ago, has announced he is de transitioning. The book “Warrior Princess” covers his story, as does a good Netflix documentary. Numerous interview by Anderson Cooper and his cohorts kept Kristen in the limelight, earning her money and awards for simply setting foot in banquet rooms as he now tells it.

I really liked him because he sounded so sincere, and he sounds sincere now. So yeah I was shocked to hear this news.

However I’m not shocked at all that Anderson Cooper, MSNBC, CNN, HuffPo, NYT, NPR and etc have not run a story on his de transitioning and his characterization “Trans ideology is cultish” because that certainly doesn’t fit their narrative. He is speaking out against medicalized transitioning of juveniles and he feels bad for his part in that world. He talks about how easy it was for him to get drugs and be declared to have gender dysphoria When deeper probing of his psychological state would have been appropriate.

[JaneV2.0]

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I really liked him because he sounded so sincere, and he sounds sincere now. So yeah I was shocked to hear this news.

However I’m not shocked at all that Anderson Cooper, MSNBC, CNN, HuffPo, NYT, NPR and etc have not run a story on his de transitioning and his characterization “Trans ideology is cultish” because that certainly doesn’t fit their narrative. He is speaking out against medicalized transitioning of juveniles and he feels bad for his part in that world. He talks about how easy it was for him to get drugs and be declared to have gender dysphoria When deeper probing of his psychological state would have been appropriate.

That's pretty much my take on the subject, also. There certainly have been determined transgender individuals like Billy Tipton who didn't want or need anyone else's input into their personal, most intimate decisions, apparently.

[ApatheticNoMore]

I'm pretty skeptical the deeper probing of the psychological state leads anywhere. Because people can have pathological reasons for all sorts of seemingly "normal" behavior. They can have pathological reasons for wanting to have kids, or pursuing a certain career, or perusing a certain relationship. And noone is really much in a position to judge their motivations (sure child protective services can judge if you abuse your kids, actions that harm others can definitely be judged, but not so much motives). And people can also come to regret all sorts of "normal" things. And noone is saying every decision people make should undergo psychological probing (presumably by shrinks?) first. Nor do shrinks really have this capacity IMO, I mean a psychologist can test and say you have ADHD, or autism or depression etc., but they can't say therefore you shouldn't do x, y, z. So all we can say is adults are free to make their own decisions. Juveniles is a much harder problem.

[bae]

I'm also a bit dubious about the overall "science" of psychology.

[JaneV2.0]

I'm also a bit dubious about the overall "science" of psychology.

I took a couple of psychology classes in college and came away thinking it was pretty much useless--a completely arbitrary "discipline." Lots of impressive language, little meaningful substance.