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    If I had another life to live, I'd start a school. It would be heavily focused on the fundamentals, but would be highly experiential to allow for different styles of learning, and I would include a lot of time on practical, nature-based skills. I'm hoping that reincarnation is a real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    If I had another life to live, I'd start a school. It would be heavily focused on the fundamentals, but would be highly experiential to allow for different styles of learning, and I would include a lot of time on practical, nature-based skills. I'm hoping that reincarnation is a real thing.
    I'm with you re reincarnation; I'm hoping I'll be able to avoid past mistakes in a potential new life.

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    I guess my fear is that the knowledge never transfers, and you just start all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    I guess my fear is that the knowledge never transfers, and you just start all over again.
    Yeah; there's that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Well jp, for the Drag Queen show issue, how educators should make the decision is “Drag Queens = Not for our students.” Pretty simple.
    How about teaching about the history of racism? Or the history of black people in America? Also not for our students? That seems to be the mindset of a chunk of our population including assorted state legislatures and governors/potential presidential candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    How about teaching about the history of racism? Or the history of black people in America? Also not for our students? That seems to be the mindset of a chunk of our population including assorted state legislatures and governors/potential presidential candidates.
    You are speaking in vagaries here so I can’t respond. You like to paint with broad brushes, overgeneralize, etc.

    I think the drag queen show issue should be put to bed and educators need to stop promoting it.
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    I agree with IL that drag queens are not appropriate for schools. Period end of discussion. Parents can do what they want but some things should be off limits for schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    How about teaching about the history of racism? Or the history of black people in America? Also not for our students? That seems to be the mindset of a chunk of our population including assorted state legislatures and governors/potential presidential candidates.
    If only schools could find a way to do that without subjecting the children to the taint of their Democrat ancestors I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, it appears the focus is different, something to do with current minorities being the victim of their Caucasian classmates and the guilt those classmates must accept.

    They should find a better way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    If only schools could find a way to do that without subjecting the children to the taint of their Democrat ancestors I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, it appears the focus is different, something to do with current minorities being the victim of their Caucasian classmates and the guilt those classmates must accept.

    They should find a better way.
    Taint of their democratic ancestors? WTF does that even mean? Next you'll be telling me that the dixiecrats didn't switch parties en masse back in the 60s and 70s. LOL.

    It's weird that republicans seem to think that white people being exposed to reality somehow should make them feel ashamed. Personally, even though I'm a white person I don't feel ashamed about the past. I just use my knowledge of the past to try to do better than the white people in the past did.

    And I don't try to deflect discussions about American racism by offering vague excuses about lack of understanding like other old white folks do.

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    Personally, even though I'm a white person I don't feel ashamed about the past. I just use my knowledge of the past to try to do better than the white people in the past did.
    Agreed, jp1. I can be outraged by past injustices (to groups, individuals, the planet) and I can hate what my forefathers did, but I'm not such a snowflake that talking about it makes me feel all sorts of guilt. And I can be outraged about the forces that drove my forefathers out of their ancestral homes without expecting the ancestors of our "victimhood" to feel guilt. That said, some of them profited greatly from the acts that drove others out, and I don't think its a bad idea that some of those profits go to bettering conditions for people in general or for the groups that were wronged. I do think acknowledgement of past wrongs makes it easier to move forward, as opposed to pretending it never happened.

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