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    And thanks for avoiding my question about pre-banning drag queens from the pride event Alan. Your avoidance just confirmed what is blatantly obvious to anyone who actually gives a shit about trans people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And thanks for avoiding my question about pre-banning drag queens from the pride event Alan. Your avoidance just confirmed what is blatantly obvious to anyone who actually gives a shit about trans people.
    As an aside, I find it interesting that you conflate “ trans people” with “drag queens.” That seems…unwoke to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And thanks for avoiding my question about pre-banning drag queens from the pride event Alan. Your avoidance just confirmed what is blatantly obvious to anyone who actually gives a shit about trans people.
    I didn't intend to avoid answering your question, I actually thought I had several comments ago, so I'll try again.

    According to your linked article "S.B. 1438 prohibits government entities from issuing permits to organizations that may hold “adult live performances” in the presence of minors. The bill defines “adult live performance” as “any show, exhibition, or other presentation in front of a live audience which, in whole or in part, depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or specific sexual activities… lewd conduct, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts.”

    Not having any particular insight into the city's reasoning, I can only assume that they have no confidence in the drag groups willingness to observe the proposed restrictions. Do you have any insight as to why that may be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And I’m sure you look forward to Ron desantis ****ing over LGBTQ.people as best he can, just like other old people on this board that have been outspoken haters of trans folks and drag queens.
    I'm not sure what Ron DeSantis is doing to LGBTQ people, can you explain? I'm also not aware of anyone on this site expressing hate towards trans folks or drag queens, are you confusing our group with another site somewhere?
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    Okay----I tell you what---Fla has more colorful characters(including ALPHABET People) than any other state in the union! So yeah---tell me how De Santis could get elected if he is anti-everything? Ha. Gotcha. Hope that helps you some. Thankk Mee.2023-05-17 (3).jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I didn't intend to avoid answering your question, I actually thought I had several comments ago, so I'll try again.

    According to your linked article "S.B. 1438 prohibits government entities from issuing permits to organizations that may hold “adult live performances” in the presence of minors. The bill defines “adult live performance” as “any show, exhibition, or other presentation in front of a live audience which, in whole or in part, depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or specific sexual activities… lewd conduct, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts.”

    Not having any particular insight into the city's reasoning, I can only assume that they have no confidence in the drag groups willingness to observe the proposed restrictions. Do you have any insight as to why that may be?
    So you'd be ok if a city, say NYC, denied a permit for the St Patrick's Day parade if they cited the reason as being that they doubted the ability of Irish Americans to have a parade without getting drunk and breaking the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I'm not sure what Ron DeSantis is doing to LGBTQ people, can you explain?
    I probably can't explain it in a way that you would understand because you have repeatedly made it clear here that you are simply unwilling to/incapable of understand that with which you don't have personal experience. If something doesn't come from a cis het white male perspective it's seemingly beyond your comprehension. Anytime anyone has tried to explain a different perspective you simply mock them or tell them their perspective is irrelevant or "wrong" somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So you'd be ok if a city, say NYC, denied a permit for the St Patrick's Day parade if they cited the reason as being that they doubted the ability of Irish Americans to have a parade without getting drunk and breaking the law?
    If they had a history of it and had no intention of changing then, yes, I'd be OK with it.

    I'm not saying that's what happened in Florida, there's not enough information in your article to tell and frankly, I've not seen any other accounts of it so to me that seems the most likely scenario. In other words, if you don't have evidence otherwise I don't think the drag queens were singled out for being drag queens so there must be a valid reason to question their ability to stay within the legislation's requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I probably can't explain it in a way that you would understand because you have repeatedly made it clear here that you are simply unwilling to/incapable of understand that with which you don't have personal experience.
    When you do find a way to explain, please let me know. I'm curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    When you do find a way to explain, please let me know. I'm curious.
    Ok. Here's a challenge. Pick any of the books that has been banned from a Florida school library (there are plenty to choose from) and tell us why you agree or disagree with the banning. I'm personally curious about James Patterson's "Maximum Ride" series, since he IS my namesake. I'm not familiar with these particular books. If you can explain what is inappropriate for high school students (since the don't say gay law has now been expanded to include everyone up through high school) about the books we could maybe have a conversation.

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