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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Sounds like B.S. trump changes (or gets his “supporters”) to change statistics in his favor.
    LOL, Ok. Just trying to provide an additional data point before you make up your mind although I guess I'm a little late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    LOL, Ok. Just trying to provide an additional data point before you make up your mind although I guess I'm a little late.
    trump fires those who provide numbers he doesn’t like. Here’s an additional talking point for you.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-f...ka-mcentarfer/

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    trump fires those who provide numbers he doesn’t like. Here’s an additional talking point for you.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-f...ka-mcentarfer/
    OK, thanks for that. As an aside though there's a difference between data points and talking points. One should precede the other.
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    This stuff going on with JD Vance's Cotswalds vacation is really weird. Apparently secret service have gone door to door asking people for their social media accounts, and then they took up all the disabled parking spaces at a farmstore:

    Cotswolds angry with JD Vance and Secret Service over latest blunder

    As someone who uses a disabled parking sticker, this one really bothered me. As someone who uses social media, the first one bothered me more. Makes me nervous about posting here. Really weird.

    Sorry, adding a link about the first one:
    JD Vance's secret service entourage 'demanding villagers' social media details' | LBC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    This stuff going on with JD Vance's Cotswalds vacation is really weird. Apparently secret service have gone door to door asking people for their social media accounts, and then they took up all the disabled parking spaces at a farmstore:

    Cotswolds angry with JD Vance and Secret Service over latest blunder

    As someone who uses a disabled parking sticker, this one really bothered me. As someone who uses social media, the first one bothered me more. Makes me nervous about posting here. Really weird.

    Sorry, adding a link about the first one:
    JD Vance's secret service entourage 'demanding villagers' social media details' | LBC
    Is that even legal in the UK? If it were some kind of UK policy to protect foreign visitors, wouldn't it be something the UK security detail would manage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    This stuff going on with JD Vance's Cotswalds vacation is really weird. Apparently secret service have gone door to door asking people for their social media accounts, and then they took up all the disabled parking spaces at a farmstore:

    Cotswolds angry with JD Vance and Secret Service over latest blunder

    As someone who uses a disabled parking sticker, this one really bothered me. As someone who uses social media, the first one bothered me more. Makes me nervous about posting here. Really weird.

    Sorry, adding a link about the first one:
    JD Vance's secret service entourage 'demanding villagers' social media details' | LBC
    I have a disabled parking placard myself. That pisses me off. The social media thing, too. I had posted a few months back how I had been posting on my own FB how the tariff rollout was a mess and it made my job much worse. Someone who is an Orange Man fan boi complained to the local Customs office that I wasn’t supporting the prez. Customs person contacted me as I’ve dealt with her for a long time. We both had a good laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Is that even legal in the UK? If it were some kind of UK policy to protect foreign visitors, wouldn't it be something the UK security detail would manage?
    Remember the UK has no issue prosecuting people for stuff posted on social media. I listen to the BBC a lot. Lots of people have had the cops show up at their door questioning them about postings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    This stuff going on with JD Vance's Cotswalds vacation is really weird. Apparently secret service have gone door to door asking people for their social media accounts, and then they took up all the disabled parking spaces at a farmstore:
    I suspect it wasn't the Secret Service going door to door but rather the local constabulary. I worked with the SS several times during the 90's and early 00's during presidential visits/events and it was my experience that they allow local police and private security associated with the visit/event to incorporate their own methods/means within their participation plans.

    Also, over the past several years the UK has gone batshit crazy over social media posts. It appears that just about any social media post critical of preferred policies or demographics are an invitation to an early morning knock on your door. It doesn't surprise me that local police may ask anyone they come in contact with about their social media presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Also, over the past several years the UK has gone batshit crazy over social media posts. It appears that just about any social media post critical of preferred policies or demographics are an invitation to an early morning knock on your door. It doesn't surprise me that local police may ask anyone they come in contact with about their social media presence.
    I spend several months a year in Cambridge and Oxford. I just hosted several scholars from those universities here in Brigadoon for a few weeks. I discussed this issue with them at some length. The situation is a bit less dire, and more nuanced, than is commonly made out here in the USA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I suspect it wasn't the Secret Service going door to door but rather the local constabulary. I worked with the SS several times during the 90's and early 00's during presidential visits/events and it was my experience that they allow local police and private security associated with the visit/event to incorporate their own methods/means within their participation plans.

    Also, over the past several years the UK has gone batshit crazy over social media posts. It appears that just about any social media post critical of preferred policies or demographics are an invitation to an early morning knock on your door. It doesn't surprise me that local police may ask anyone they come in contact with about their social media presence.
    yes, I think you are right, and I read it wrong. This seems to indicate it was the local police then passing it on to the SS:

    Villagers near JD Vance's Cotswold's mansion claim they were 'quizzed by police for social media details' as VP's security lockdown sparks outrage among locals | Daily Mail Online

    I think.

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