Government Coup

[frugal-one]

Wonder what others think about trump’s bashing of the Pope and his AI image depicting himself as God (inferring his capability to heal the sick?) ?

[catherine]

Wonder what others think about trump’s bashing of the Pope and his AI image depicting himself as God (inferring his capability to heal the sick?) ?

It's enough to make me go back to the Catholic church. I love how Trump said, "I don't want a pope that thinks it's OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon." OK, Donald, so then go to seminary, become a priest, work with the poor and sick, work your way up to bishop, archbishop and cardinal, and wait for a chance to vote for a pope who is happy to kill people for unjust causes.

He is a piece of work.

[iris lilies]

It's enough to make me go back to the Catholic church. I love how Trump said, "I don't want a pope that thinks it's OK for Iran to have a nuclear weapon." OK, Donald, so then go to seminary, become a priest, work with the poor and sick, work your way up to bishop, archbishop and cardinal, and wait for a chance to vote for a pope who is happy to kill people for unjust causes.

He is a piece of work.

I don’t understand. going only on your recitation of Trump’s latest utterance about the pope:

So do YOU want a pope who thinks it’s OK that Iran have nuclear weapons?

[catherine]

I don’t understand. going only on your recitation of Trump’s latest utterance about the pope:

So do YOU want on a pope who thinks it’s OK that Iran have nuclear weapons?

It's not the pope's job to decide who should have nuclear weapons. What I expect in a pope is a religious leader with moral authority over the people he is meant to represent. I think Pope Leo is doing his job. My point is that DJT doesn't get to decide who is pope and he can't demand the pope's compliance with US policy.

[iris lilies]

It's not the pope's job to decide who should have nuclear weapons. What I expect in a pope is a religious leader with moral authority over the people he is meant to represent. I think Pope Leo is doing his job. My point is that DJT doesn't get to decide who is pope and he can't demand the pope's compliance with US policy.

OK I kind of see that, that the pope needs to stay out of politics.

except he doesn’t.

[catherine]

OK I kind of see that, that the pope needs to stay out of politics.

except he doesn’t.

It is certainly any religious leader's job to call out atrocities and injustices when they see them. Heck, if every individual has a responsibility to speak out against wrongdoing, a religious leader is failing their duty if they don't. Pope Pius XII was heavily criticized for not speaking out more during the Holocaust. Pope Leo obviously feels that what's going on in Iran is not just. He also sees inhumanity in the ways in which immigrants are being treated in the US. He is calling out the decisions of the administration on these things, as I believe he should.

[rosarugosa]

OK I kind of see that, that the pope needs to stay out of politics.

except he doesn’t.

Like the Christian Nationalists are keeping religion out of politics?

[catherine]

Like the Christian Nationalists are keeping religion out of politics?

The only thing wrong with the Christian Nationalists is "Nationalists."

[Tybee]

Praying for our beloved Pope. Never thought I would see the day when the president of the US would threaten the Holy Father. After the personal threats made to him in January, the Vatican cancelled his trip to the United States this year.
Absolutely horrifying.

[iris lilies]

It is certainly any religious leader's job to call out atrocities and injustices when they see them. Heck, if every individual has a responsibility to speak out against wrongdoing, a religious leader is failing their duty if they don't. Pope Pius XII was heavily criticized for not speaking out more during the Holocaust. Pope Leo obviously feels that what's going on in Iran is not just. He also sees inhumanity in the ways in which immigrants are being treated in the US. He is calling out the decisions of the administration on these things, as I believe he should.

Can you point me to the Pope’s words condeming the slaughter of Iranian citizens early this year by the Islamic regime in Iran? According to ChatGPT, there were no utterances. But Chat is often wrong.

These speeches of der Papst (as he is sometimes called in my household, holdover from my Swiss Catholic MIL) seem pretty politicized to me. I would expect him to speak out against war because it is always an instrument of suffering. I would also expect him to speak out against government slaughter of citizens.