Thinking more about my dislike of the term ‘real bike’ to denote non e-bikes it’s because if one is a ‘real’ bike that implies that the other isn’t. But they both are very definitely ‘real’ bikes just as a motorcycle is a bike. Otherwise the term biker wouldn’t often denote ‘someone who rides a motorcycle’. Different people want different things from a bike whether the bike is a regular bike an e-bike or a motorcycle. That doesn’t make any of those people less worthy of saying they like their bike.