Was Diane Sawyer drunk?Originally Posted by creaker
Was Diane Sawyer drunk?
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
The takeover of the GOP by religious conservatives took 30 years. I think it will take at least 20 years before the once GOP understands that they need to secularize and become much more inclusive.
The Old Guard is resisting change. Classic actions of those who cannot see that power sharing is better for us all. As a feminist, I see it as one more signal of the patriarchy ebbing away. As a progressive, I hope for a renewed GOP with a centrist message. As a citizen, I want more viable parties & am very appreciative of the incredible race, age, class, gender, and sexuality diversity in our amazing, pluralistic society. Even when it gets really really messy!
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He's on the right, the authoritarian right to be precise, but I'm not so sure he's a moderate. We'll see I guess."Congratulations Conservatives! You are getting a moderate Republican for President: Barack Obama"
Hehehe. ABC was so biased, they actually said things like "Nevada pulled through for Obama". Um how is that anything but naked bias worthy of Fox? Democracy Now may be biased but openly so, so if you don't know where Democracy Now is coming from, then really nothing can be done for you.I was flipping back and forth from ABC and Democracy Now - I expect I watched something very different.
Trees don't grow on money
Well supposedly she was just tired and not drunk.
Spot on, Redfox.
Sounds a little like Chris Rock's "Message for White Voters" on the Jimmy Kimmel show last week.
I saw tweets commenting on the Spin-O-Rama taking place on Fox last night, so we switched it on. By then even they had conceded the election to Obama. But watching this Sheperd (sp?) character dissembling on-air when clearly the race a) didn't go their way; and 2) was over way before they'd planned, was bizarre.
I hope the Republicans take this opportunity to do some soul-searching. Right now the loud and dangerous inmates are the ones running the asylum. Frankly, I'd like to see a functional G.O.P. facing off with Democrats*. Ideas get sharper when there's constructive pushback and argument (not public tantrums, Messrs. McConnell and Boehner). A different perspective is useful -- when it's not grounded in dogma and clearly in violation of reality (Messrs. Akin and Mourdock and Ms. Bachmann). And it wouldn't hurt for most of the Republican party leadership to learn what the word "credibility" means. They seem utterly oblivious to the hypocrisy of declaring government "the enemy" after serving seven Congressional terms -- or an entire career -- suckling at the public ---- (Messrs. Ryan and Boehner [again]), or professing to be for "family values" when the family they have in mind is Ward and June Cleaver and when their own behavior is just reprehensible (Messrs. Cain and Gingrich).
I would love to see more "Eisenhower Republicans" (and not "Sam's Club Republicans" like that poseur Tim Pawlenty). But others may be right -- the old guard may have to die off first before that kind of reform can happen.
* I'd like to see a true multi-party system, but right now I'll settle for two functional parties.
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I'd like to have had some way to vote against Obama besides Jill Stein (and other 3rd party candidates). Stein is a good woman, but I also felt there's no way I could stomach the duopoly. Of course the Dems ALSO didn't primary Obama.Frankly, I'd like to see a functional G.O.P. facing off with Democrats*.
I don't think I can take ever take it even slightly seriously until conservatism integrates conservation, until they integrate environmental information into their belief systems, until they really think hard and deep, and seriously about protecting our environment. Which I don't think is absolutely opposed to conservatism in ideology but in money it is, if the Koch brother's are funding your party ....I would love to see more "Eisenhower Republicans" (and not "Sam's Club Republicans" like that poseur Tim Pawlenty). But others may be right -- the old guard may have to die off first before that kind of reform can happen.
But hey, that may just be me, caring about maintaining ecosysems and stuff, nutty as a fruitpie.
what I want as well of course* I'd like to see a true multi-party system, but right now I'll settle for two functional parties.
Trees don't grow on money
The republicans have the golden opportunity to gain back some credibility, and do the country a good turn to boot. Obama has demonstrated in the past that he is more than willing to bend over backwards to make a deal (sometimes too far in my opinion). Right now we are facing some very rough road just ahead. If all these people would just come together and hammer out a deal, real compromise, it would do congresses credibility a great deal of good. I don't think these 'no compromise' folks understand that the majority of their party will admire them for trying, and for compromising, even if they don't get everything they want. And that goes for both sides of the isle. Used to be we all understood that no one gets everything they want.
I too would like to see a stronger libertarian party with more well defined platforms/ideas. And maybe that is the future of the GOP. I think at this point we are all ready to listen, but I also think people are fed up with the BS and will call them on it.
DH describes Republicans as fat white guys--and he is a Republican who describes himself the same way. But I know DH is more than that. Too bad that the GOP has become a caricature of itself.
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Who creates and promotes the caricature? How many times today on these very forums has someone typed "old white guys" as a representation of nearly half the population of the United States?
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
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