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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris lily View Post
    Why do you feel the need to direct this discussion? I don't see the word "moderator" under your name.
    Actually, look again

    Redfox, have you been "promoted" here lately?
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    I have attended several of Col. Grossman's classes in the past, and have found the. helpful. I thought some of you might find this of interest:

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    Had to look closer, thought we were in PP for a minute...
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Actually, look again

    Redfox, have you been "promoted" here lately?
    hey-- you are right, it is Over her name not Under.

    Redfox is carrying on the long standing tradition of over-moderation on this board but for a brief 2 year respite. I realize that "over moderation" is in the eye of the reader but for the record, I protest.

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    Gregg,
    That's what I'm talking about. I noticed when I was teaching that the kids that were cooperative and excelling were disciplined and grounded. They had chores. They were required to do them. They respected their parents and authority. They came home exhausted and hungry after busting their bums in dance class. After which they ate dinner, took a relaxing bath, and fell into bed. All of this sitting around, and texting, and staying inside seems so counterproductive and idle to me. Using your talents is grounding. Getting up early and going to work is grounding. Having your own bank account, paying your own bills, and saving money is grounding. You and I both left home early. I rented a room from a working class mother who was on her second dead beat husband. I helped her with grocery shopping, drove her daughter to ballet, (we both had pro careers in dance after that,) helped her with the dishes, etc. I just don't think kids are doing that anymore. I had the 4:30 a.m. shift at MacDonalds, and at 17, I thought that was a terrific job and was very proud of myself. I didn't think I was too good for minimum wage. Just the independence of leaving home, being around people you admire and wish to emulate, fulfilling your destiny...you can't put a price on that. Young adults this age have a lot of creative and sexual energy to burn. It needs to be constructively channeled.

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    I left home as soon as I could too. If I had all the wisdom in the universe I might have stayed a few years longer, and put up with it, as my parents were willing to pay for as much education as I wanted basically while living at home with nothing more than a part time job I choose to take on (I was proud of that as well!), and I even happened to be really GOOD AT schooling, it comes naturally enough. If I had all the wisdom in the world I would have taken them up on it, had them pay for a graduate degree (Masters - anything beyond that really is silly for most things), gotten a true profession, and set myself up to call the shots economically for life. But I was young and chafing under not being on my own yet and eager to leave at any price and who the heck even cares if it leads to long term happiness! I'll worry about that later! Plus I had very little experience in the world and just wanted to get out there.

    I think too much electronics is bad for people's mood (hmm too bad I have to do at least 40 hours of it a week just to earn a living right?). Yea not any good for me either. Still the worst thing for people's mood is watching the news, to know what is going on in the world is to hurt from wound that will never heal, still it's also the only way to even attempt to be part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freein05 View Post
    I use the word clip because that is what we used to call them in the old days and have not changed my terminology. I served in the army from 1965 to 1968. The army was just changing from the M14 to the M16. I qualified with both. I only qualified as a sharp shooter. Later when I was assigned to 24th infantry division I was assigned to a machine gun crew and qualified with an M60 machine gun. My MOS was aircraft electrician but when you are assigned to an infantry division you are an infantry men first and a aircraft electrician second.

    At that time no body took the time to call a clip a magazine. It took too long to say if you needed one in a hurry. But that was real life in the army at that time. My brother was in the army at the same time in Vietnam and I was in Germany. In Vietnam they sure did't take the time to call a clip a magazine in the heat of a fire fight but that is real life in war.
    He was a door gunner on a Huey.
    I served for 10 years, also using M-16's, M60's and .50's as welll as a .12 gauge riot shotgun and Colt .45 (then a Baretta .9mm) and also carried a firearm on my civilian job for years as well as personally for 30 plus years (even have a Bach. degree in Criminal Justice) and still call magazines clips. I really do know that's incorrect but...potato- potahto. I think it's just such common usage for many people - even professionals and military - that it's a hard habit to break. Bae has corrected me a couple of times and now everytime I start to write the word clip instead of magazine here, I have a vision of him in a nun's habit, a stern commanding expression on his face and a very large ruler in his hand about to rap me across the knuckles with it if I use clip instead of magazine :-)! But then I still call a firearm a gun (this is my rifle, this is my gun :-)!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartana View Post
    (this is my rifle, this is my gun :-)!!).
    Thanks for the trip in the way back machine. "this is for killing and this is for fun!"
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Thanks for the trip in the way back machine. "this is for killing and this is for fun!"
    We use to say "this is for fighting, this is for fun". Although as a female I had a few...er..missing gun bits :-)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iris lily View Post
    hey-- you are right, it is Over her name not Under.

    Redfox is carrying on the long standing tradition of over-moderation on this board but for a brief 2 year respite. I realize that "over moderation" is in the eye of the reader but for the record, I protest.
    Good feedback. I wasn't commenting as a Mod, however, rather as a peer. If/when I do engage my Mod role, I'll preface my comments, much like Gregg does, by saying so. And, IL, I agree that if I had been Modding, this would have been over the top! So, alas, no tradition being upheld here, simply an opinion by another community member. Onward!

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