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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Cut the salaries (over $170,000 each) all of the Washington Senators, congressman, and their staff (OK, they get less) and expense budget.

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    Well, actually Sen. McCaskill of MO has proposed just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    Well, actually Sen. McCaskill of MO has proposed just that.
    In the last two years, there have been 27 congressional proposals to do that, but none of them passed. According to the linked HuffPo article "In the recent past, members of Congress have frequently offered to cut their own pay -- just like a cheapskate reaches for his wallet at the end of dinner knowing someone else reached first and will pay the tab."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I think you can bank on that.
    Yes, of course, cause EVERYONE knows they check party affiliation before asking someone to take a 20% pay cut.....or reducing their food stamps. And hope you are on a airplane with democratic passengers, cause I'm thinking they will require a show of hands before they assign an air traffic controller.

    Well, I'm guessing the teabaggers are happy. They wanted draconian cuts, and they're gonna get them. These 'low information' folks, who don't actually know anything about running a huge, modern country, kept screaming about 'drowning' the government in the bathtub. These anti-government, anti-women, anti-education tea baggers, who base their platform on Sarah Palin sound bites (you betcha!) should be dancing in the streets.
    Grover Norquist is probably wetting himself with excitement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    Well, I'm guessing the teabaggers are happy. They wanted draconian cuts, and they're gonna get them.
    Best as I can figure from the news is that the conservatives are not going to be happy until the cuts are in the entitlement programs of SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. It seems to me like it's coming down to either cutting back on these programs or having tax increases to cover them as they are. There is a middle ground that no one seems to want to visit. At least that's the long term choice that will avoid revisiting the issue every few months.
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    Obama periodically floats proposals to cut Social Security and so on as well (the chained CPI etc..). How serious he is is anyone's guess, he's slippery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    Well, I'm guessing the teabaggers are happy. They wanted draconian cuts, and they're gonna get them. These 'low information' folks, who don't actually know anything about running a huge, modern country, kept screaming about 'drowning' the government in the bathtub...
    In case you're interested in another opinion, http://www.cnbc.com/id/100476675/The...owth_Sequester

    The Obama administration is whipping up hysteria over the sequester budget cuts and their impact on the economy, the military, first providers, and so forth and so on. Armageddon. But if you climb into the Congressional Budget Office numbers for 2013, you see a much lighter and easier picture than all the worst-case scenarios being conjured up by the administration.
    For example, the $85 billion so-called spending cut is actually budget authority, not budget outlays. According to the CBO, budget outlays will come down by $44 billion, or one-quarter of 1 percent of GDP (GDP is $15.8 trillion). What's more, that $44 billion outlay reduction is only 1.25 percent of the $3.6 trillion government budget.

    So the actual outlay reduction is only half the budget-authority savings. The rest of it will spend out in the years ahead — that is, if Congress doesn't tamper with it.
    And please remember that these so-called cuts come off a rising budget baseline in most cases. So the sequester would slow the growth of spending. They're not real cuts in the level of spending. (Not that a level reduction is a bad idea.)
    Looking at the sequester in this light, it's clear that it won't result in economic Armageddon. In fact, I'll make the case that any spending relief is actually pro-growth. That's right. When the government spending share of GDP declines, so does the true tax burden on the economy. As a result, more resources are left in the free-market private sector, which will promote real growth.

    I think that the take-away from all this is that the administration will continue to mis-represent the "draconian" nature of these cuts in order to inflame "low information voters".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    Obama periodically floats proposals to cut Social Security and so on as well (the chained CPI etc..). How serious he is is anyone's guess, he's slippery.
    I am routinely trying to unravel the issues, but my read has been that he has implied to agree to some entitlement reductions as some sort of deal that would probably include tax increases. In a further fractioning of the parties, the democrats have told him to leave entitlements alone.

    "House Democrats reiterated in the letter their "vigorous opposition to cutting Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits in any final bill."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2695257.html
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    Yet the President offers compromise, even though the Republicans refuse to acknowledge it as such.

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    Just me, but I have a hard time labeling a 2% cut draconian.
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    Short of a mutually-accepted refuting the entirety of a 205 page document (http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...assets/ccs.pdf) such criticisms are easily dismissed as partisan perspective. The reality is you want more cuts, and folks on the far left more fewer cuts.

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