What about those poor soles of non color. Who will hire them? Why should they be discriminated against for the non color of their skin. And especially males since they are also discriminated against in hiring. The non color need affirmative action also!!!
20 Ways Not to Be a Gentrifier came across to me as highly bigoted. Not that all the ideas were bad, far from it. There were simply far too many assumptions (read: stereotypes) for me to stomach.
Have I now? Are you sure?"Recognize most of the perpetrators of crime have also been the victims of a system you have most likely benefitted from disproportionately."
This belief is, in my experience, promoted by those looking for restitution for evil acts perpetrated against someone who may or may not have been their great-great-great-great-grandparents. No one denies the deeds were done or that they were wrong in every way or that people suffered. But "hundreds of years of historic trauma"? Phlea. Such statements are every bit as damning and damaging as hatred from the opposite end, maybe more so. There is no more effective means of holding back a population than to make them all into victims of a crime that was committed so far in the past that none of the perpetrators can ever be brought to justice. At least a people can rally against hate speech. Perpetuating the victim myth does nothing more than justify a lack of action. If you want to help a person or a neighborhood or a generation why not instill the belief that great things are possible rather than starting with the assumption that there's nothing you can do about it because the deck is stacked against you? The only trauma that should be fresh in anyone's mind is the near total absence of opportunity creation for ANY color of person who wants it. The collective culture I live in can't cure anything thanks to the twin poverties of imagination and fortitude among those we hoped would help. Time for a new approach.Remember low-income communities and communities of color may be suffering from hundreds of years of historic trauma, and this trauma is very fresh in the minds of most people of color.
"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
I also find the phrase "soft bigotry of low expectations" amusing, because it's only ever applied to individuals.
When it comes to corporations or hedge fund managers asking for a handout, no one says "No, because helping you would prevent you from being able to raise your expectations if you just did it yourself!"
Come on, banksters, you don't need government bailouts, just try harder! We know you can do it!!
Well it was talking about gentrifiers who probably have some wealth to buy in an up and coming neighborhood (some money to even rent there if the place is becoming hot - but more so to buy). Yea a person probably benefits disproportionately for being white all other things held constant, but it doesn't mean they are going around scheming about how to keep minorities down. One may benefit really through no fault of their own."Recognize most of the perpetrators of crime have also been the victims of a system you have most likely benefitted from disproportionately." Have I now? Are you sure?
And all other things never are constant, noone thinks some poor white Walmart worker is disproportionately benefitting from the system (simple income stats will disprove it!) but neither are they going around gentrifying anywhere probably.
you probably can trace a certain amount back that far. There's probably inherited wealth that goes back to slavery, no this doesn't apply if you come from poverty (although maybe if you still inherit property?) or more recent immigrants. I don't think it applies to MOST people (of any race) frankly. But I do wonder to what extent it exists. That's the direct benefit. But more recently there's definitely inherited wealth from say much more recent times of segregation. There's other inherited advantages as well - your parents went to college, your grandparents went to college etc.. That's an advantage. And there's current society where you still probably face less discrimination all other things held constant. I tend to reject the strict dichotomy between understanding causual factors, and taking action in the now (to improve your situation etc.). But it's also worth asking how much the current situation even provides much in the way of openings for constructive action.This belief is, in my experience, promoted by those looking for restitution for evil acts perpetrated against someone who may or may not have been their great-great-great-great-grandparents. No one denies the deeds were done or that they were wrong in every way or that people suffered. But "hundreds of years of historic trauma"? Phlea. Such statements are every bit as damning and damaging as hatred from the opposite end, maybe more so. There is no more effective means of holding back a population than to make them all into victims of a crime that was committed so far in the past that none of the perpetrators can ever be brought to justice
Trees don't grow on money
the phrase used to describe that is: moral hazard. If the banksters get bailed for stupid decisions, they'll do it again (and I'm quite sure they will).I also find the phrase "soft bigotry of low expectations" amusing, because it's only ever applied to individuals.
When it comes to corporations or hedge fund managers asking for a handout, no one says "No, because helping you would prevent you from being able to raise your expectations if you just did it yourself!"
Come on, banksters, you don't need government bailouts, just try harder! We know you can do it!!
Trees don't grow on money
So exactly spot on its crazy catherine! There is no more effective way to deal with inequality than to render it moot. Who cares about income inequality if there is no real need for income? What difference would it make if you had a billion dollars but lived in a place where no one had any need for dollars? Oh sure, the US probably wouldn't work that well if the whole place tried to live like these islanders. Probably.Originally Posted by catherine
"Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"
The article about gentrification is preachy. I just laugh at these things. When we moved into our house I can assure you that any poor person would not have lived here and would have been marching on the local Housing Authority with news cameras trained on them, protesting the abuse heaped on them for even suggesting that they move into this house.
Yeah, tell me how to gentrify.
Oh, I think it's already a given. The banks that were "too big to fail" are actually as big or bigger than in 2008, and the risky casino-like behavior continues. Do Americans have the stomach to rescue them again, or are we going to have to watch the fabric of our economy tear even further?
Don't know, but I guess it's easier to complain about cell phone subsidies for poor people.
There is no homeless "solution" but carry on planning it, it makes no difference to me, and good luck with that Detroit option.
What I think would be an interesting exercise on this thread is to list positive things that the homeless provide to the community. Everyone in society is a part of the social fabric. Everyone is not a "taker" without being a "giver" in some aspect.
Here are some things I've observed that the homeless provide as a positive:
* a few have dogs, and these are likely dogs that would not have care if it were not for that homeless person--probably they are keeping that dog from being euthanized for some months
* they provide eyes and ears on the street which can act as a crime deterrent. (It is true that unfortunately the homeless in large numbers end up creating crime. But let's pretend the large groups do not exist.)
* They provide a way to recycle clothes, blankets, shoes
*They fulfill the mission of the religious organizations that are required to witness and bring souls to Jesus
* They act as a cautionary tale for younguns
* They provide a way for people who like to help other people fulfill their social helping mission
*They provide wisecracks and humor as entertainment out on the street
Perhaps I'll think of more, but right now the only additional ones I can think of are facetious.
Well, sorry to say, many homeless choose the lifestyle.
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