End of the American Dream

[Ultralight]

Just simply live and starve the rich bastards to death.

Amen, brother!

[ApatheticNoMore]

K-Von was a democratic socialist and a secular humanist!

Player Piano strikes me as a somewhat more realistic scenario. No jobs. Huge competition for the few good roles, runaway credentialism, testing etc. Everyone else doing make-work. It's a lot closer to present reality than a government instituting equality, I mean one can at least see the Player Piano scenario in current trends.

[Ultralight]

Player Piano strikes me as a somewhat more realistic scenario. No jobs. Huge competition for the few good roles, everyone else doing make-work. It's a lot closer to present reality than a government instituting equality, I mean one can at least see the Player Piano scenario in current trends.

K-Von was certainly a visionary. I celebrate his entire catalog of novels and stories and non-fiction.

[Alan]

Also, they made a movie of that story back in the early 1990s. And I think they made one recently...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2081_(film)

Dude, in my world, the 1990's were just recently.

[LDAHL]

Might want to take a gander at the data on median household income over the past N decades:

I would suspect that the size of the household unit has declined somewhat over the last half century, which could mean that income is available to support fewer people.

[Gardenarian]

I would suspect that the size of the household unit has declined somewhat over the last half century, which could mean that income is available to support fewer people.

Good point, and now most families have 2 wage earners.

[ApatheticNoMore]

There was probably a lot of poverty in 1965. Wasn't it about that time Bobby Kennedy was doing his "other America" tours in areas of real and serious poverty, genuine hunger etc..

Still it is hard to get beyond the record homelessness problem visible everyday on the streets, no matter how many statistics get thrown around.

[LDAHL]

There was probably a lot of poverty in 1965. Wasn't it about that time Bobby Kennedy was doing his "other America" tours in areas of real and serious poverty, genuine hunger etc..

Still it is hard to get beyond the record homelessness problem visible everyday on the streets, no matter how many statistics get thrown around.

It's only statistics and not solid anecdote, but according to this homelessness has been declining.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...merica/279050/

[Ultralight]

I think that it might be worth it to reexamine what it really means to be homeless.

A person can be without a house or an apartment or a condo but still have food, healthcare, friends, clean water, and a place to shower too.

People live in vans and are happy: http://www.cheaprvliving.com/

People live in cars and are happy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PCwnCC5Sw0

People live in tents and are happy: http://www.businessinsider.com/ultra...ke-work-2015-7

[ApatheticNoMore]

It's only statistics and not solid anecdote

it's not anecdote, statistics show that locally homeless has increased a lot lately. It's the evidence of my eyes backed by data which by the way is not called anecdote. National stats are really an entirely separate issue as one doesn't live nationally. There is something about seeing so much abject poverty on a daily basis ...