Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[Ultralight]

If it's not tight after the third turning......then it's time for a fourth turning. It's an Appalachian torque wrench.

This sounds either made up or awesome or maybe both.

[Williamsmith]

I'm beginning to think Trump is a genius and all his fourth grade gibberish is just an act. He is playing Cruz like a Stardivarius. Dividing the field and conquering it. He is highlighting Cruz's weaknesses. So Rubio pulls down Governor Haley's endorsement and closes the gap or maybe overtakes Cruz. If Cruz comes in third he is toast. Now it's the establishment against Trump. A clear choice and in an angry election year, Trump might win. And if it doesn't look like he gets the nomination then he threatens third party. GOP knows it can't win then so they give in. The key is all he has to do is get rid of Cruz. Should be easy.......nobody likes him anyway.

[jp1]

What's a fourth turning?

The fourth turning is a book written back in the 90's that posits that society moves in roughly 80 year cycles of four seasons. The fourth turning is the winter season where all the ineffective institutions get killed off allowing room for a spring rebirth of new institutions. Each generation, once they get old enough to be society's leaders leads with a different style based on what was happening when they were kids. The winter season happens when the people leading society were born after the last fourth turning so they dont understand the peril of being able to push society off a cliff, so to speak. There have been 3 fourth turnings in anerica. The revolution, the civil war and the great depression/WWII. Typically a fourth turning involves major economic destruction and total war.

[LDAHL]

The fourth turning is a book written back in the 90's that posits that society moves in roughly 80 year cycles of four seasons. The fourth turning is the winter season where all the ineffective institutions get killed off allowing room for a spring rebirth of new institutions. Each generation, once they get old enough to be society's leaders leads with a different style based on what was happening when they were kids. The winter season happens when the people leading society were born after the last fourth turning so they dont understand the peril of being able to push society off a cliff, so to speak. There have been 3 fourth turnings in anerica. The revolution, the civil war and the great depression/WWII. Typically a fourth turning involves major economic destruction and total war.

So they occur when people with no direct experience or memory of how bad things can get decide to dice with disaster to pursue ill-conceived social theories? Thereby creating a mess for future generations to clean up? Lather, rinse, repeat, forever?

That's bleak enough to have the ring of truth.

[jp1]

So they occur when people with no direct experience or memory of how bad things can get decide to dice with disaster to pursue ill-conceived social theories? Thereby creating a mess for future generations to clean up? Lather, rinse, repeat, forever?

That's bleak enough to have the ring of truth.

Basically, yeah. But not just social theories. Business theories too, like creating quadrillions of dollars of derivatives that are all probably going to fail in a massive cascading domino effect.

[LDAHL]

Basically, yeah. But not just social theories. Business theories too, like creating quadrillions of dollars of derivatives that are all probably going to fail in a massive cascading domino effect.

I can see that, too. A sort of generational theory of the superiority of old age and treachery over youth and enthusiasm.

[Tenngal]

My husband works for the hwy dept and 90% of them are for Donald Trump. They are the angry, white (for the most part) middle class.
They long for the days when life was more simple, when Dad worked (not mom) and supplied the family with all they needed.
No ISIS, no terrorists, there were jobs you could stay with for a lifetime and retire. Health care was affordable. They want their guns.
I am wondering how much of the country feels the same way? I see Trump saying what they want to hear and see him leading in the polls.
I do not see him being one for taking advice from his cabinet if he is elected. Scary times.

[Ultralight]

My husband works for the hwy dept and 90% of them are for Donald Trump. They are the angry, white (for the most part) middle class.
They long for the days when life was more simple, when Dad worked (not mom) and supplied the family with all they needed.
No ISIS, no terrorists, there were jobs you could stay with for a lifetime and retire. Health care was affordable. They want their guns.
I am wondering how much of the country feels the same way? I see Trump saying what they want to hear and see him leading in the polls.
I do not see him being one for taking advice from his cabinet if he is elected. Scary times.

Don't worry! Canadian Cruz just cruised ahead in national polls. So I am sure everything will be just fine.

[Williamsmith]

Don't worry! Canadian Cruz just cruised ahead in national polls. So I am sure everything will be just fine.

UA......Nikki Haley's endorsement of Rubio is going to put a nail in Jeb's coffin this Saturday and a kink in Canadian Cruz's colon. Rubio just might well be surging after he picks up Jeb Bush's outliers and sucks up those who thought they were Cruz supporters until they saw Haley standing beside Rubio and started fantasizing about what a great ticket that would make especially the contrast of youth versus worn out aged oligarchy of Mrs. It's My Turn.

So Im going to go out on a limb here and say that the horse race favors Rubio as he closes the gap ......something the polls are lagging behind on. Cruz has been distracted by Trump while Rubio is flanking him.

Trump is is not going to lose his quarter of the pie........Cruz is bullheaded and stubborn enough to drag it out to the bitter end. He's going to whip that horse raw on the way to the finish line. Rubio is polished and "electable". Cruz argues with everybody......well he's an attorney ain't he? The voters are now seeing why nobody in politics endorsed Cruz. And what his former college roommate says about him, "he's an asshole."

So I am cautiously optimistic that Saturday Cruz will get a torpedo to the engine room. What kind of VP do you think he would opt for. Scary! Haley kind of reminds me of A Margaret Thatcher archetype. Rubios stock is up.

[Tenngal]

Don't worry! Canadian Cruz just cruised ahead in national polls. So I am sure everything will be just fine.

I would rather have Trump........Cruz is a scary guy. I can see him moving us back to the dark ages.