Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

[Teacher Terry]

PI can be incurable but MI not so much.

[Ultralight]

PI can be incurable but MI not so much.

You don't think some people are MI terminally? As in being MI is how they will be for life?

I know someone who is 46 years old. He has been deeply depressed since age 17. They gave him meds, therapy of all kinds, put him in hospitals, etc.

His depression has not been alleviated. Each day it has grown a little worse.

This person is a good friend of mine. I see him suffer from this horrible, profound depression.

I'd support and vote for a law that allowed him to exit stage left.

[catherine]

You don't think some people are MI terminally? As in being MI is how they will be for life?

I know someone who is 46 years old. He has been deeply depressed since age 17. They gave him meds, therapy of all kinds, put him in hospitals, etc.

His depression has not been alleviated. Each day it has grown a little worse.

This person is a good friend of mine. I see him suffer from this horrible, profound depression.

I'd support and vote for a law that allowed him to exit stage left.

Did you ever see the movie They Shoot Horses, Don't They with Jane Fonda? She was fantastic in that role. I saw it in high school and it shook me up.

I am not in favor of assisted suicide when it comes to MI, but that movie makes a case for it.

I have a situation in my family where an in-law's first spouse killed themselves after hearing that the in-law was remarrying. And they planned it so the in-law would be the one to find them--and this particular in-law was in their 20s at the time. The ex-spouse had lifelong issues with depression. I agree with Terry that there's too much ambiguity with MI to make someone else responsible for an irreversible decision.

[Ultralight]

I agree with Terry that there's too much ambiguity with MI to make someone else responsible for an irreversible decision.

Of course you feel this way. You have not been profoundly mentally ill for decades.

[Teacher Terry]

Nothing is stopping your friend from killing himself. It is not illegal to do so-I looked it up.

[catherine]

Of course you feel this way. You have not been profoundly mentally ill for decades.

I'm not talking about the legality of killing oneself--I'm talking about making someone else complicit.

[Williamsmith]

How many of the participants in last nights GOP debate have Mental Illness and would you favor assisted or complicit suicide for any one or more of them? For me, I guess it would depend on their finger size and limits of their flexibility. It is obvious and I think we can all agree that whatever illness has taken over the GOP....it is terminal.

[Ultralight]

That debate last night was three no-talent-ass-clowns and one understated sociopath.

[Ultralight]

Nothing is stopping your friend from killing himself. It is not illegal to do so-I looked it up.

Terry. Oh, Terry. Think about it.

The means of suicide are illegal.

Misuse of pills -- illegal!
Shooting a firearm in most situations is illegal.
Jumping off a private or public building is illegal.

And things like drowning yourself in a lake might be illegal too -- illegal to walk on thin ice, illegal to swim here or there, etc.

You seem like a nice person. But your thoughts on doctor-assisted suicide are half-baked at best. And your thoughts on MI are ill-informed. But perhaps most unsettling to me is how you seem to disregard a person's freedom to do whatever they want with their body.

Don't take these constructive criticisms as personal attacks. Because they are not. They are harshly questioning ideas that you hold, ideas you may want to rethink.

Though I suspect you'll simply double-down on them.

[LDAHL]

Terry. Oh, Terry. Think about it.

The means of suicide are illegal.

Misuse of pills -- illegal!
Shooting a firearm in most situations is illegal.
Jumping off a private or public building is illegal.

And things like drowning yourself in a lake might be illegal too -- illegal to walk on thin ice, illegal to swim here or there, etc.

You seem like a nice person. But your thoughts on doctor-assisted suicide are half-baked at best. And your thoughts on MI are ill-informed. But perhaps most unsettling to me is how you seem to disregard a person's freedom to do whatever they want with their body.

Don't take these constructive criticisms as personal attacks. Because they are not. They are harshly questioning ideas that you hold, ideas you may want to rethink.

Though I suspect you'll simply double-down on them.

Why are her ideas half-baked? If she favors physician-assisted suicide for those who lack the capacity to kill themselves, but in effect says someone who does have that capacity is free to do so himself without placing that terrible burden on others, how is she inconsistent? And if someone indulges in self-slaughter with no accomplices, why quibble over the legality of the act?