HR made me take a personality test...

[bae]

I also find it amazing how many people object to them.

In the context of employment, access to the inner workings of my mind is not one of the things I am selling, and I view these tests as an invasion of my privacy, much akin to asking me which sexual positions I prefer with which sorts of partners, what my religion is, or what political party I belong to.

[JaneV2.0]

Do his footnotes stand up to the rigor of the scientific method?

What makes you doubt Dr. Stevenson's book and evidence? My guess is that you doubt because the "evidence" has been debunked. But debunked how?

We'll get you there soon, Jane! You can do this.
Keep going.

Do you acknowledge that science comprises different factions arguing evidence on both (or all) sides of many questions? Or do you think that once evidence is presented by one researcher, the science is settled? As in phrenology, the miasma theory, "humors", the stress theory of peptic ulcers...

Ignaz Semmelweis paid the price for not being able to present "evidence" for the effectiveness of hand washing in presenting infection. Many patients paid a greater price.

[freshstart]

They made my department take the Myers Briggs one time and 7 out of 8 of us came back as introverts.

Two of us, who shared an office, were INFJ, which is supposed to be rare, but a bunch of us on SL are INFJ.

I did not like that we all had to take the test; it seemed wrong somehow.

I got asked in my interview, I'm an INTJ but knew if I admitted to the J I would not get the job. (It was clear the boss has a loose handle on understanding results) I lied and said INTP and got the job. It was a group interview and everyone went, "phew, not a J," so good call on lying, lol. How stupid the whole thing was. I went on as a J for 11 yrs and no one noticed or if they did, they did not care.

[bae]

Tell me how you want me to score on the Myers Briggs, and I'll get that result.

Next...

[Alan]

I got asked in my interview, I'm an INTJ but knew if I admitted to the J I would not get the job. (It was clear the boss has a loose handle on understanding results) I lied and said INTP and got the job. It was a group interview and everyone went, "phew, not a J," so good call on lying, lol. How stupid the whole thing was. I went on as a J for 11 yrs and no one noticed or if they did, they did not care.

I'm a natural INTP, everyone wants to be like me.

[JaneV2.0]

As an INTJ, I resemble that remark. People run screaming from the room when I enter.

[Ultralight]

Do you acknowledge that science comprises different factions arguing evidence on both (or all) sides of many questions? Or do you think that once evidence is presented by one researcher, the science is settled? As in phrenology, the miasma theory, "humors", the stress theory of peptic ulcers...

Ignaz Semmelweis paid the price for not being able to present "evidence" for the effectiveness of hand washing in presenting infection. Many patients paid a greater price.

Some issues of science are much less settled than others. But some are rather settled.

That is why I mentioned repeating experiments and such above.

Why was phrenology debunked?

Again, if you got a bacterial infection I bet dollars to donuts you'd take antibiotics. There ain't no way you'd say some silly crap like: "The science isn't settled on this cipro!"

Right?

[Teacher Terry]

Bae, you must have missed the point when I said people voluntarily took the test and we used it for conflict resolution at work or in marriage counseling. Nobody was forced to take it. I do not think people should be asked their personality type in a job interview. There are appropriate and inappropriate uses of tests like anything else. Also the tests don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of a package accompanied by a good clinical interview by a qualified professional, a review of medical records if you are helping someone return to work and they have a disability, etc. The point is to use the information to help people in various parts of their lives not to exclude them from things. Tests are only one of many tools that a professional can use. The testing companies spend a small fortune to ensure that they are valid and reliable, etc. That is one reason the tests themselves are expensive. UL: I am not going to teach a psychometric course for you online but I have 24 years of experience in this field as well as 3 grad degrees but you won't care abut any of that because you like to argue and be annoying.

[JaneV2.0]

Some issues of science are much less settled than others. But some are rather settled.

That is why I mentioned repeating experiments and such above.

Why was phrenology debunked?

Again, if you got a bacterial infection I bet dollars to donuts you'd take antibiotics. There ain't no way you'd say some silly crap like: "The science isn't settled on this cipro!"

Right?

I believe I covered that. ("As I suggested, the quality of evidence is what matters, and whether it stands the test of time".)

I'd prefer not to have to take antibiotics (fluoroquinolones, especially). They're notoriously overused. But I would take one of the older, proven ones if it were absolutely necessary. I'm not one who uncritically believes Pharma's "evidence," much of which has been proven unreliable.

[JaneV2.0]

Some issues of science are much less settled than others. But some are rather settled.

That is why I mentioned repeating experiments and such above.

Why was phrenology debunked?

Again, if you got a bacterial infection I bet dollars to donuts you'd take antibiotics. There ain't no way you'd say some silly crap like: "The science isn't settled on this cipro!"

Right?

I believe I covered that. (As I suggested, the quality of evidence is what matters, and whether it stands the test of time.)

I'd prefer not to have to take antibiotics (fluoroquinolones, especially). They're notoriously overused. But I would take one of the older, proven ones if it were absolutely necessary. I'm not one who uncritically believes Pharma's "evidence," much of which has been proven unreliable. I think your example is a classic red herring.