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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I think this is a crucial point. The political parties have no official governmental standing. They are no more than political social clubs. It is quite reasonable of them to have rules in place to keep random people off the street from flooding into their clubhouse and hijacking their club.

    I am curious why the various state auditor/election offices allow their resources to be used to run the elections for a private organization. Do they typically charge the parties for their services? I know when the governmental entity I am elected to needs to hold a special election of any sort, we get charged by the County for the election.
    I believe that historically it has been the States imposing primaries on the parties rather than the other way around.

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    I understand one of the Koch brothers is leaning toward Ms. Clinton. Now there's an endorsement!

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politi...-clinton-2016/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I understand one of the Koch brothers is leaning toward Ms. Clinton. Now there's an endorsement!

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politi...-clinton-2016/
    He said "We would have to believe her actions would be quite different from her rhetoric."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I understand one of the Koch brothers is leaning toward Ms. Clinton. Now there's an endorsement!

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politi...-clinton-2016/
    thats gotta make some heads explode

    Thinking of Loosechickens who loved to invoke the Koch bros as the ultimate evil..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I understand one of the Koch brothers is leaning toward Ms. Clinton. Now there's an endorsement!

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politi...-clinton-2016/
    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    He said "We would have to believe her actions would be quite different from her rhetoric."
    I suspect many Bernie supporters are finding themselves in agreement with him on this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    thats gotta make some heads explode

    Thinking of Loosechickens who loved to invoke the Koch bros as the ultimate evil..
    It's not making my head explode, but it is making me aware that despite all her recent Bernie-posturing that Williamsmith wrote about on the thread about her, Hillary will never be a progressive and is only saying what she thinks she needs to say to get elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I suspect many Bernie supporters are finding themselves in agreement with him on this point.



    It's not making my head explode, but it is making me aware that despite all her recent Bernie-posturing that Williamsmith wrote about on the thread about her, Hillary will never be a progressive and is only saying what she thinks she needs to say to get elected.

    Much like her husband who turned the Democratic Party into Republican lite, with NAFTA, and Don't Ask, Don't Tell, among other SNAFUs. They love the power and wealth that comes from being lapdogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    It's not making my head explode, but it is making me aware that despite all her recent Bernie-posturing that Williamsmith wrote about on the thread about her, Hillary will never be a progressive and is only saying what she thinks she needs to say to get elected.
    As I watch the primary results tonight, this may be my one source of comfort.

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    While it certainly appears to be true that Hillary just wants her presidency to be Obama v. 2.0 - the lady warrior edition, it is entirely possible that, just as LGBT activists forced Obama to actually exert some effort to get DADT repealed and to stop defending the obviously unconstitutional DOMA, supporters of various parts of Bernie's agenda may well be able to insist that Hillary actually act on some of the pieces of her purported agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    He said "We would have to believe her actions would be quite different from her rhetoric."
    I can't speak for Mr. Koch, but I, for one, DO believe her actions will be quite different from her rhetoric.
    "Back when I was a young boy all my aunts and uncles would poke me in the ribs at weddings saying your next! Your next! They stopped doing all that crap when I started doing it to them... at funerals!"

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    Hillary is not my first choice. Her history proves she is a doer, not a charmer. So when she wins, I do expect some action.

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