Hillary Clinton

[iris lilies]

The WC slider does require an educated palate.

Much as the voters moved Congress into a blocking position after the first two years of Obama, we could see the same thing for either Trump or Clinton. And if Obama was unable to "go over their heads to the people", certainly people with 50+ percent negative approval from day one won't.

I'm not sure I see a damage-control vote as selling out. I see it as making the best of a lousy situation. Although we clearly disagree on what would constitute "damage." I was never one to take my ball and go home, even when I'm getting smoked (which seems likely this year).

i am playing the long game. I want to rebuild the Republican Party and will likely vote
libertarian in order to do that.

Cult leader D. Trump could accomplish quite a bit toward that goal,even though ideaologcially he would contribute nothing, but I don't think he's gonna go that route.

[rosarugosa]

I'm voting for Bernie in November, whether he's on the ballot or not. I find Clinton & Trump equally despicable and I'm not voting for either one of them.

[Teacher Terry]

WS: I grew up in the Midwest and came of age in early 70's. My father worked at a car maker and it gave us a really good living with a great pension, medical benefits, etc. every time someone bought out the company they would worry about the new owners but they followed through on the promises and after my Dad died my Mom collected. All told between the 2 of them they lived 37 years on that pension. My Dad had to retire at 53 because of illness/disability. They had $ saved too but in the end since my Mom lived so long she was living on the pension and SS just fine.

[Williamsmith]

WS: I grew up in the Midwest and came of age in early 70's. My father worked at a car maker and it gave us a really good living with a great pension, medical benefits, etc. every time someone bought out the company they would worry about the new owners but they followed through on the promises and after my Dad died my Mom collected. All told between the 2 of them they lived 37 years on that pension. My Dad had to retire at 53 because of illness/disability. They had $ saved too but in the end since my Mom lived so long she was living on the pension and SS just fine.

I guess that's why the taxpayers eventually bailed out the automakers. As UA would say.....good on you.

[Williamsmith]

Does anyone want to talk about the presumptive democratic nominee? The one that lost Oregon last night and barely eeked out Kentucky with a little shenanigans probably. RealClear Politics has Trump in a statistical tie with Hillary whereas Sanders crushes him.

It is clear the democratic electorate would like to move left but Clinton is not only going to block that with the help of Debbie Wasserman Shultz and the DNC, she is going to have a tough time keeping the Oval Office in democrat hands. A chance of a lifetime spoiled because it is her turn. Not because anyone believes in anything she believes in. Incredible.

[Ultralight]

Does anyone want to talk about the presumptive democratic nominee? The one that lost Oregon last night and barely eeked out Kentucky with a little shenanigans probably. RealClear Politics has Trump in a statistical tie with Hillary whereas Sanders crushes him.

It is clear the democratic electorate would like to move left but Clinton is not only going to block that with the help of Debbie Wasserman Shultz and the DNC, she is going to have a tough time keeping the Oval Office in democrat hands. A chance of a lifetime spoiled because it is her turn. Not because anyone believes in anything she believes in. Incredible.

Billary gets the Dem nod and I vote Trump.

[Ultralight]

One more thing:

I must say that this is the most interesting political time of my life. Anyone else feel this way?

Obviously, those of you who came of age in the 1960s probably feel differently.

But those of you younger than that, this is some crazy chit, right? lol

[LDAHL]

One more thing:

I must say that this is the most interesting political time of my life. Anyone else feel this way?

Obviously, those of you who came of age in the 1960s probably feel differently.

But those of you younger than that, this is some crazy chit, right? lol

That depends how you define "interesting". I prefer the early eighties, when Reagan brought us out of our national funk.

This period is interesting in the sense of not being able to look away from a car wreck.

[Ultralight]

The early 1980s certainly brought us a lot of interesting music, but for we leftos it was the political dark ages...

[Rogar]

I think the polls are going to have a tough time predicting this one, at least at this point. Hillary will need to garner Bernie's supporters and there will be party lines crossed among republicans. Even the Koch bros. have said so much. Not to mention the independents. The debates will be interesting, but I think many will be voting for the least offensive personality rather than the actual issues. It won't be over until it's over.

It's the most interesting political time in my recent recollection, at least without going back to Nixon and Kennedy. Although the Obama campaign and the first black president was nothing to scoff at.