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    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.
    What channel was that? I can't find anything in my usual news sources. It doesn't sound like something Bernie would suggest. Maybe Trump's campaign PR flak put that out; I wouldn't put it past Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.
    It makes all the sense in the world to me. Both Sanders and Trump are carrying anti establishment supporters. One group is responding to socialist utopia and the other has a leaning towards nationalism, but both want to rid themselves of the influence of monied interests. True they approach it in vastly different terms but they are both seekin the same result. Winner take all. Clinton represents what got us in this mess in the first place. She is a step backwards. At least Trump is still evolving his politics.

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    It doesn't make much sense to me. Better Jill Stein or another anti-establishment candidate than the odious Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.
    I watched his interview with George Stephanopolous this morning and he didn't say anything of the sort, nor did George ask, which he undoubtedly would have if George had heard it elsewhere, so this sounds like a truth-free soundbite put out by a righwting hack or Debbie Wasserman Shultz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.
    I have a hard time believing this one. And I haven't found anything. Source?

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    I give credit to Sanders for identifying the problem and calling out Wall Street and Congress but He proposes the wrong solution. The transfer of wealth through force has been going on ever since the federal reserve and Congress joined forces to inflate the supply of money, devalue it and by this means tax people without representation. If Bernie wanted to eliminate the federal reserve and get back to free market principles , aid be all for him but he believes the democratization of the federal reserve would be an improvement. Nothing the federal government has done in a big way has led to an improvement. Education? Welfare? Military? It's all a disaster and Bernie would have more of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    I give credit to Sanders for identifying the problem and calling out Wall Street and Congress but He proposes the wrong solution. The transfer of wealth through force has been going on ever since the federal reserve and Congress joined forces to inflate the supply of money, devalue it and by this means tax people without representation. If Bernie wanted to eliminate the federal reserve and get back to free market principles , aid be all for him but he believes the democratization of the federal reserve would be an improvement. Nothing the federal government has done in a big way has led to an improvement. Education? Welfare? Military? It's all a disaster and Bernie would have more of it.
    Social Security. Medicare. The interstate highway system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Saw today on the news that Sanders said if he can't win he wants his supporters to back Trump. WTH!!! He is not a democratic socialist... just a socialist. He should not have been allowed to run as a democrat IMO.
    I was wrong! Saw the clip again.... was talking about DNC. Sorry... caught it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    I give credit to Sanders for identifying the problem and calling out Wall Street and Congress but He proposes the wrong solution. The transfer of wealth through force has been going on ever since the federal reserve and Congress joined forces to inflate the supply of money, devalue it and by this means tax people without representation. If Bernie wanted to eliminate the federal reserve and get back to free market principles , aid be all for him but he believes the democratization of the federal reserve would be an improvement. Nothing the federal government has done in a big way has led to an improvement. Education? Welfare? Military? It's all a disaster and Bernie would have more of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Social Security. Medicare. The interstate highway system.
    Thinking about this some more I think the problem isn't that the government isn't capable of doing big things. It's that the big businesspeople have figured out how to make big bucks off the government through the use of lobbyists and such. Today if we tried to provide retirement income for seniors the life insurance industry would probably be pushing for a "privatized" system where everyone got a government provided life insurance policy. Medicare would have become vouchers to buy private health insurance. And the interstate highway system would've been private toll roads.

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