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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Right now, that is my plan in the voting booth.
    A vote for Paul is a vote for Hillary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    A vote for Paul is a vote for Hillary!
    I'm considering doing the same for Bernie, and a vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump. In this election, more than ever it's time to stand up for what you believe in.

    And speaking of Bernie, I thought that this video of Bill Maher's interview with billionaire capitalist Nick Hanauer to be a succinct and compelling case for why we should have a national $15 minimum wage.

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    I will either vote Trump outright or write-in The Bern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I'm considering doing the same for Bernie, and a vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump. In this election, more than ever it's time to stand up for what you believe in.

    And speaking of Bernie, I thought that this video of Bill Maher's interview with billionaire capitalist Nick Hanauer to be a succinct and compelling case for why we should have a national $15 minimum wage.
    Refreshing to hear Hanauer speak out--especially since he agrees with me, or I with him.

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    The owner of my sons tool and die shop is doing quite well based on the size of his house and the number of expensive toys his family plays with. He pays his employees chicken feed. In 1913 Henry Ford figured it out and was called a socialist for doubling the minimum wage and cutting his work day to 8 hrs. to get workers who were dedicated and loyal. He did pretty well for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    The owner of my sons tool and die shop is doing quite well based on the size of his house and the number of expensive toys his family plays with. He pays his employees chicken feed. In 1913 Henry Ford figured it out and was called a socialist for doubling the minimum wage and cutting his work day to 8 hrs. to get workers who were dedicated and loyal. He did pretty well for himself.
    That is only half the history of Ford.

    But nonetheless, it sucks that your son is working for a place like that. No other options there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    The owner of my sons tool and die shop is doing quite well based on the size of his house and the number of expensive toys his family plays with. He pays his employees chicken feed. In 1913 Henry Ford figured it out and was called a socialist for doubling the minimum wage and cutting his work day to 8 hrs. to get workers who were dedicated and loyal. He did pretty well for himself.
    Henry also knew that in order to sell cars, he needed people who could afford to BUY cars. And his best customers are his employees. Henry's strategy helped to build a strong middle class. A class who could buy cars and clothes and vacations (with all the purchases that entails) . The middle class IS the job creator we need, and we need it to be big and strong and bad-ass.

    Too bad the McDonalds and Walmarts of this country, along with those who oppose a minimum raise, can't see that.

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    So Ford paid his workers enough to buy his cars? So he gave them money and they gave the money right back? They gave him their labor and he gave them the car they built?

    Why not just make them work for the car itself, ya know? Just pay them in cars. lol

    Something don't sound right to me in this scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    Something don't sound right to me in this scheme.
    It's the whole "we'll all make a fortune taking in each others' washing!" economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraliteAngler View Post
    So Ford paid his workers enough to buy his cars? So he gave them money and they gave the money right back? They gave him their labor and he gave them the car they built?

    Why not just make them work for the car itself, ya know? Just pay them in cars. lol

    Something don't sound right to me in this scheme.
    Because you can't feed cars to your growing babies.

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