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    Gabby Giffords has just been shot in the head.

    Arizona's one youngish, female, marginally liberal government representative, and a really nice person to boot, shot down in a public meeting around noon. She was first reported to have been killed, I'm now reading that she may in fact not have died but only be critically wounded ... either way, this is terrible.
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    NPR reported her killed, but later Reuters stories reported her alive and in surgery. Grievously injured if not asassinated. I hope she makes it through this.

    The shooter is in custody. I have no doubt he will pay for his crime... and there will be investigation into who incited him and how he obtained the firearm.

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    Well, I'm just guessing here but, this congresswoman was one of 20 on Sarah Palin's "target map". Remember that? The one with cross hairs on 20 democratic congress persons?

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    Yes ... and she'll be just as critically wounded or just as dead. She was the fresh spot in a nauseatingly homogenous sea of republican men, our only democratic AZ representative. I'd be shocked and upset to hear that any of our appointed representatives was attacked in the course of duty, but this is sickening on a political level as well as a human one.

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    OMG- looking for updates - some report her in surgery and hanging in there...

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    DH heard that she is out of surgery and responsive........but I'm not sure what that means. This is just horrible.

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    Sadly, it sounds like several people were killed, including a child. Senseless.

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    While it's true that this representative was one of the ones singled out on Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" poster, which certainly received heavy criticism for just this kind of reason, that unbalanced individuals might take such things literally and decide to move on their own, there's no evidence that it was connected to this particular guy. At any rate, at this point, Sarah Palin has scrubbed the poster from her SarahPac site, etc.

    A look at this guy's MySpace page and You Tube videos certainly shows that this young man has mental issues. This guy has "paranoid schizophrenic" written all over him. And certainly some anti-government sentiment, stuff about the country going off the gold standard, etc., but there is, at least so far, no connection between him and right wing groups, the Tea Party, or any other group, from Right OR Left. Mostly it looks like your ordinary, sad, mentally ill person, who has glommed onto some issues and uses that mentally ill brain to make some very bad decisions. .

    The problem with the ugly political atmosphere in our country today is that it is a fertile ground for mentally ill people's ideations to grow and flourish. No matter what side they are on. Way too much talk of "lock and loading", "taking the Second Amendment route to change", etc. And mentally ill people are often not capable of distiguishing between rhetoric and revealed truth, and end up driven to terrible acts.

    Just so sad that a small child died as a result of it.

    I find myself wondering what they will find when they examine all the people shot. A friend in Tucson said that several of the people who were bystanders were "carrying" (AZ being one of those places where when you go to the grocery store, you see people walking around with sidearms), and when the shooter started, several bystanders pulled THEIR weapons and started shooting, too. None managed to wound or kill the shooter, but may well have caused some "friendly fire" damage of other innocent bystanders.

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    If this incident doesn't speak to "hate mongering" on the airwaves of America, I don't know what will. I'm quite sure that this individual or individuals were not representative of common America but I can tell you personally that I tuned into our AM local radio station and it is pretty much 24/7 hate radio. From 11AM till 3PM everyday they spew their hate speech and then we wonder why incidents like this happen.

    Sure hate doesn't have anything to do with it? I think MI-5 warned us about right-wing hate groups last year??

    Peace

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    AS a peace offering, can i offer you Cavenaugh ?
    http://immigrationimpact.com/categor...igration-blog/
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