How many more?

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I see that on Fox News, but it doesn't look like CNN's covering it.

You didnt mean this sarcastically, right?

But should we be surprised?

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KDFW is now reporting 3-6 officers down. One of my forums online is monitoring scanner traffic and there might be two shooters. Those gun shots I heard were almost definitely fired from a rifle.

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The Minnesota shooting is sad and unfortunate, especially if it proves to be unprovoked.

But death to black men comes, by an order ofor magnitude, at the hands of other non LEO black men over other demographics.

This week in St. Louis we had 6 deaths within a 24 hour period; none were officer involved shootings. I believe all shooters were black men but I can't verify that. Our local rag doesnt always provide race of shooters or victims, but does provide that info sometimes according to byzantine rules no one understands.

And more people die from guns by suicide than at the hand of someone else pulling the trigger. But that doesn't negate the fact that black men are routinely not given the same treatment that white men are by cops. This pic came across my facebook feed today from some confederate flag event at stone mountain where a confederate flag supporter, toting two guns and with his hand on one, was faced towards a cop 3 feet away, and yet the cop didn't pull out his gun and pop the guy. If it had been a black dude I doubt the result would have been the same. White privilege. And where's the NRA after Alton Sterling. Guy didn't do anything wrong, had a legal concealed carry, advised the cop of his gun, and is still dead. If he'd been white Wayne LaPierre would be jumping up and down all red in the face shouting about how wrong it was that a person legally exercising their 2nd amendment right had this happen to them.

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1 Dallas officer now confirmed dead.

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Alton Sterling is the guy shot in Baton Rouge. The MN guy is the one who apparently had his carry permit, according to his girlfriend. No official confirmation of that.

3 officers are now confirmed dead. As many as 10 shot. Two snipers shooting from elevated positions with rifles. This was an ambush.

[jp1]

Alton Sterling is the guy shot in Baton Rouge. The MN guy is the one who apparently had his carry permit, according to his girlfriend. No official confirmation of that.

3 officers are now confirmed dead. As many as 10 shot. Two snipers shooting from elevated positions with rifles. This was an ambush.

You are correct. I meant Philando Castile. So many dead black guys over the years that I can't keep track...

I feel bad for the cops in Dallas and their families. They didn't deserve this, but it's not surprising. Unfortunately I expect this problem is going to get uglier and more divisive before it gets better. Hopefully we've reached, or will soon reach, the tipping point to achieve true police reform so that no one else on either side gets senselessly killed.

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You are correct. I meant Philando Castile. So many dead black guys over the years that I can't keep track...

I feel bad for the cops in Dallas and their families. They didn't deserve this, but it's not surprising. Unfortunately I expect this problem is going to get uglier and more divisive before it gets better. Hopefully we've reached, or will soon reach, the tipping point to achieve true police reform so that no one else on either side gets senselessly killed.

We all are seeing "police reform." The Ferguson
effect. Ask and ye shall receive.

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Dallas PD has released a photo of a suspect. Black man.

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Now some sort of an explosive device is suspected and being searched for.

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Still active shooting. Seeing officers being pulled to safety on live feed. Now 4 officers dead.