Prayapolooza in Houston

[loosechickens]

yes, Catwoman......the piece is completely from the Houston Chronicle, not edited in any way, AND I posted the link to the piece as well, so I think I have to say that you ARE fishing a bit. Didn't you even check the link first?

It's the pits when the facts just don't seem to line up with your preconceived ideas, isn't it? ;-)

edited for: danged typo.......and to say that I don't believe I have EVER posted something here and attempted to "edit" it to change or alter the meaning and content of the piece, while I might certainly only excerpt portions of it, to illustrate a point I am trying to make. I also try to post a link to the complete item, especially if I don't put the entire piece in my post, so that people can go directly to the source and read the entire thing.

I don't "take liberties".

So, I am somewhat annoyed that it sounds as though you are accusing me of altering it because somehow it doesn't fit YOUR idea of how the Chronicle would feel about this issue, AND not even bothering to click on the link to read the piece yourself first.

As you'll note, by reading the article, many Christian pastors and others have found this ploy by our governor to be distasteful and inappropriate, just as many of us here have.

[Alan]

It's probably a little confusing because the link is to what appears to be a blog called Houston Belief, Believe Out Loud, which seems to be hosted by the Houston Chronicle, along with several others on pets/parenting/gardening/etc.

[Catwoman]

Yes, thanks, so it was a blog not a complete news article?

[benhyr]

Yes, thanks, so it was a blog not a complete news article?

Since it looks like an integral part of the site, hard to say. best bet would be to write the editor and ask. this would be especially true if you take umbrage with the article as, core to the newspaper or not, it's being hosted on the newspaper's site and therefore being put forth with their name attached.

[Alan]

That's how it appears to me. The page heading makes no mention of the Chronicle although the copyright notice at the bottom does and there are several hundred comments on the article which doesn't seem likely on a newspaper story. The header on the page is different from the Houston Chronicle's main site:







That's probably why it sounds different than the newspaper.

[dmc]

It appears they are doing something right in Texas.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...710070472.html

[jp1]

Since this is the second time you've brought up circumcision in a thread that blends religion with politics, allow me to ask you a question based upon the real world rather than your speculative talking points.

There is currently a ballot initiative in San Francisco to make it illegal to circumcise a male child. If a politician opposes this initiative based upon religious grounds, would that mean that San Francisco is a theocracy? Should that politician be forbidden from expressing the view based upon it's source?

I think the difference is that plenty of people choose to circumsize their male children for non-religious reasons, so while a jewish politician may oppose it for religious reasons, he can point to plenty of other reasons to oppose the ban, but no non-religious people are likely to believe that our elected leaders should be hosting a giant prayer session for a solution to our nation's problems. And frankly, as a non-jew, I oppose the circumcision ban at least partly on religious grounds because I don't think laws should be made banning what is, for some, a religiously significant thing.

Personally I don't care if Rick Perry wants to have his event, however rediculous I think it may be. I think that by doing this he's lost any chance of winning the presidency. No non-religious person, and plenty of religious people from any number of faiths, including Christianity, are likely to see it as I do, a clear indication that this man is incapable of coming up with and implementing real solutions to the nations problems. If this is the best idea he can come up with I shudder to think what a Perry presidency would be like.

[peggy]

It appears they are doing something right in Texas.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...710070472.html

Yea, here's how Texas is doing under Rick Perry.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...here_does.html

Some highlights:

"You get what you pay for - Texas ranks 49th in revenues collected per capita, and 50th in revenues spent. The state also ranks 44th on tax progressivity, meaning although it collects less taxes overall, more of a share comes from the working class.

Texas comes in dead last (50th) in percent of population over 25 who have a high school diploma. 46th in SAT scores, and 49th in teacher pay. But hey, the Texas school board has ordered that all schools teach the bible in the upcoming school year!

How does the family do in the Lone Star State? Texas ranks last in the percentage of people without medical insurance. It also ranks dead last in the number of covered children, 49th in level of payments for the Women and Infant Children (WIC) program, but 1st in the number of teenage births. Texas ranks 3rd in number of people living in poverty and 50th in homeowners insurance affordability.

And hey, Texan politicians come 3rd as to number of convicted public officials! Dead last in voter turnout, though. First in executions and 2nd in rate of incarceration only manage to get Texas up to 18th in murder rate. "


"What about the environment? Air pollution emissions, CO2 emissions, amount of volatile organic compounds released into the air, amount of toxic chemicals released into water, amount of carcinogens released into the air - all number one!"


"Texas ranks 46th in hourly earnings for manufacturing workers, 47th for union membership, and 48th in worker's compensation benefits paid per covered worker. Don't get hurt at work in Texas, eh?"


Are we proud yet? We're #1! We're #1! We're #......

[reader99]

Yea, because prayer has been so helpful in the past.
What I love is that it's a prayer AND fast. Cause, you know, god loves hungry people and all...and it's a non denominational CHRISTIAN thing. Well, that's pretty specific isn't it. That pretty much leaves out everyone else, doesn't it.

Nondenominational means Christian, including all stripes: Lutheran, Methodist etc. To include all FAITHS would be ecumenical, which they aren't claiming.

[poetry_writer]

Yea, here's how Texas is doing under Rick Perry.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...here_does.html

Some highlights:

"You get what you pay for - Texas ranks 49th in revenues collected per capita, and 50th in revenues spent. The state also ranks 44th on tax progressivity, meaning although it collects less taxes overall, more of a share comes from the working class.

Texas comes in dead last (50th) in percent of population over 25 who have a high school diploma. 46th in SAT scores, and 49th in teacher pay. But hey, the Texas school board has ordered that all schools teach the bible in the upcoming school year!

How does the family do in the Lone Star State? Texas ranks last in the percentage of people without medical insurance. It also ranks dead last in the number of covered children, 49th in level of payments for the Women and Infant Children (WIC) program, but 1st in the number of teenage births. Texas ranks 3rd in number of people living in poverty and 50th in homeowners insurance affordability.

And hey, Texan politicians come 3rd as to number of convicted public officials! Dead last in voter turnout, though. First in executions and 2nd in rate of incarceration only manage to get Texas up to 18th in murder rate. "


"What about the environment? Air pollution emissions, CO2 emissions, amount of volatile organic compounds released into the air, amount of toxic chemicals released into water, amount of carcinogens released into the air - all number one!"


"Texas ranks 46th in hourly earnings for manufacturing workers, 47th for union membership, and 48th in worker's compensation benefits paid per covered worker. Don't get hurt at work in Texas, eh?"


Are we proud yet? We're #1! We're #1! We're #......

And the rest of the country is doing swell under Obama ..not. You are quoting from what source?