I think law gets confused with protection. Dueling and lynching went on long after they were outlawed.Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
I think law gets confused with protection. Dueling and lynching went on long after they were outlawed.
A AR-15 fires one shot at a time just like any other semi automatic. And I’ll bet the cartridge is much smaller than what your ex’s hunted deer with.
Your basically wanting to ban something because it’s scary looking.
I can can understand wanting to do something, but we need to look more into what causes a kid to want to kill in the first place. I have grandkids also and worrying about a school shooting is way down on the list of concerns.
A single shot rifle or shotgun surely will get the job done for hunting, though it can mean the difference between three ducks in the bag or just one. For my money, a Browning Pump Shotgun in 20 gauge can do most anything. It is a gun for the generalist. A Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 is good too, but I am a lefty, so the Browning is better for me. I have one in 12 gauge -- it is a bit too beefy for my taste. But it was a gift, so I used it for clays and geese.
A person could hunt with an AR-15. But it is not really designed for that. When you say regular rifle, you probably mean a rifle designed for hunting. AR-15 are designed for combat and such. If you want to hunt get a Browning shotgun. If you want to be prepared to become a guerrilla defending your freedom from a tyrannical gubmint with all the black helicopters and stormtroopers and so forth, then an AR-15 is more for that.
But an AR-15 does not make a person prepared to be a freedom fighter. The average American is not mentally, physically, or emotionally prepared for that sort of thing. 40% of Americans are obese. Most barely know how to set up a tent, let alone run a jug line, build a campfire, or butcher wild fish and game.
The idea that Americans would fight back in any real way against tyrannical gubmint is preposterous in my opinion. Clinging to assault rifles gives many Americans the false comfort that they can prevent dictatorship. But I think most would roll over for the tyranny if their bellies were kept full and they could still buy piles of cheap plastic crap and gadgets from China.
1600+ kids die each year from car accidents. Since 2012 about 400 people (adults and children) have died in school shooting.
If you are worried about your children, keep them out of cars and off the roads.
I want to ban cars because about 40,000 Americans die each year in car wrecks!
Cars look scary to me!
Further to the above comment from dmc, Nikolas Cruz exhibited threatening behavior and got into fights with other students, which resulted in his expulsion from the school he later returned to and fired at least 100 rounds, killing 17 people in a matter of minutes.
Before the school took action to expel Cruz, he was banned from bringing a backpack to school, because he had threatened students that he might bring weapons and attack them.
Local police had been called to the home of Nikolas Cruz 39 times to deal with "strange and violent behavior", although it has not been reported how many of these police visits occurred before January when Cruz bought the AR-15.
The store which sold the AR-15 to Cruz, Sunrise Tactical Supplies, has closed permanently. The owners released a statement through their attorney, stating that the store sold the rifle to Cruz in January. There was nothing about the transaction that raised any suspicions in the minds of the store owners or employees.
They performed the background check as required by law. They received all the proper clearances. They held the rifle for the required five-business-day waiting period. On the ATF paperwork Cruz answered "No" to questions asking if he suffered from mental health issues, or was he ever institutionalized for treatment. (According to some accounts, Cruz had been "in and out of treatment"... maybe he lied on the form.) The statement adds that his ties to white supremacy and his expulsion from school were not reason enough to withhold a firearm from him.
The survivors of Parkland are saying there needs to be a ban on civilians owning the AR-15. They know that Cruz obtained the weapon legally, and he passed the background check, even though there were "red flags" in his behavior. Cruz might be described as obsessed with weapons, and he threatened people. I believe it trivializes their trauma, not to mention those who died in that shooting incident, to say they want the AR-15 to be banned "because it's scary looking".
I am actually not opposed to any assault rifle ban. But how could we be sure it would stop there? What about pump shotguns? What about Glocks with high capacity clips?
Except that there are dozens of other weapons of the same or greater caliber, semi-automatic functionality, range and accuracy as the AR-15. It is singled out for it's looks.
I've always been perplexed by the AR-15's popularity. I had the opportunity to use its full automatic cousin, the M-16 at the range and in the field. I think many veterans may prefer the AR due to its familiarity and rugged dependability and perhaps that's what carries over to their children and grandchildren. At the end of the day it's just a semi-automatic rifle, no different than many others with perhaps a more traditional look. If it is banned, there's plenty of others to take its place, I think the fixation on this weapon is silly.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
I really don’t have a problem with a AR ban. If it’s like the last one it will only mean the prices of the ones in circulation will go up. There are thousands of them out there. I only bought one on a whim, I shot it a few times and would have no problem selling it if the price was right. But for what they sell for now I might as well keep it.
And where does it stop from there? Some are terrified of anything that even looks like a gun.
“I think the fixation on this weapon is silly.”
me too. Alan. Except i’d Like to see a ban on any thing that fires more than the two barrels of a double barrel shotgun with a single trigger pull. If that means you miss your deer, go to the range and practice. If you end up short on ducks, come see me at the food bank.
So there is the rub, you actually want to ban the majority of guns. And what about the millions that are in circulation? Am I suppose to turn in my ancestors Winchester lever action 1873, 1886, 1892, 1894, among many others that have been passed down in my family. Those are capable of firing more than two shots, I’d like my son to have a couple of my old bolt action guns also, they are also capable of firing multiple rounds.
I havnt hunted in 15yrs after my old bird dog died, but I still like to shoot at targets, both fixed and moving. And many of my friends and family do enjoy going hunting. And I may decide to go again.
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