Some people mock when a certain topic makes them uncomfortable......
Some people mock when a certain topic makes them uncomfortable......
I think it's unfortunate that this topic has been mocked and diminished, I agree. But I think that you've had several people who agree that the atheists who are promoting this campaign are wasting everyone's time and using this to get them publicity, bad publicity, but like Madonna and Lady Gaga et al, bad publicity is usually huge.Originally Posted by poetry_writer
I agree
Oh really, that is extreme and I''m a bigger atheist than you are, so there! na nah nah nah, na.Sweet mother jesus it's not that big of a deal, and if you carry the logic of your point to the extreme, since it's practically impossible to find any building or organization that doesn't receive tax money in some form, religion is out of the public square and confined to dark, private places. Guess that's what you want. Reminds me far too much of communist Russia and that's intolerable.
Iris, actually it was communist Albania that prohibited *any* form of religion. The dictator Hoxha banned *all* religion in 1967.https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nning_religionOh really, that is extreme and I''m a bigger atheist than you are, so there! na nah nah nah, na.
I have a close friend (she is ethnic Greek) who grew up in Albania during Communism. The stories she's told would make your toes curl. Her maternal grandmother would sing her Orthodox hymns in Greek around Good Friday and Easter, but would never translate them into Albanian, even in the family, for fear of her life.
The Soviets banned religion, threw all sorts of Russian Orthodox from bishops down to simple believers into prison, as well as murdering them, but the Russian Orthodox Church was still permitted to exist, although in a greatly reduced fashion.
...and sometimes its as simple as people just wanting to clown around a little bit.
I just really don't see the renaming of a street as a marriage of church and state. Maybe its the first leak in the dike, maybe not. Either way someone was there to shove a finger in it. Thank God for the atheists.
I wasn't trying to mock any religion. I was trying to make a point that, to me, all religion - and the rites and history of all religions - are sacred to most of the people who follow them. And that mashing them all up together in some sort of generic fashion sullies that sanctitiy. Each faith, and all the many denominations and sects within each faith, have certain things they follow (rites, rituals, etc...) that are important to them. Whether it's cleansing themselves in a certain manner before prayer (washing their feet, etc...) or prostrating themselves in a certain way (the direction of Mecca, etc...), counting their Rosery Beads, wearing certain garments, having males and females worshiping seperately, lighting candles or whatever the myriad of practices each religion have, each should remain pure and true to that groups belief system. Those things should be kept holy and not muddied or mish mashed in some government sponsered politically correct way.
As far as your original post about the street sign, would you have cared if the atheists protested if the street sign was religious, but non-Christian, sign? Something like "Road to Reincarnation"? "Pathway to Enlightenment"? "Avenue to the 10,000 Blessed Virgins"? Again, I am not mocking. Just trying to make a point that what one person finds sacred, another finds sacreligious.
Last edited by Spartana; 6-25-11 at 12:53pm.
Well I'm not an atheist, and I didn't say you should ban religion, I said I think it should stay in the realm of the Church, the Temple, the Synagouge, the private sector, etc... as well as within public places if it isn't a "sponsered" government activity. to be practiced according to each religions beliefs, and that it should be out of the realm of government sponsered programs that are funded by taxpayers. I don't see what's so hard about that. I don't want the government telling me how to worship, I don't want them in my religious - or lack or religious - spirtitual life at all. And I don't want my tax payer dollars going to support something that I may find offensive because it isn't my personal belief. I lived for many years in the third largest Asian community in the USA. Approx. 90% of the population were practicing Buddhists - that includes the local government. So, if I was going by the "majority Rule" ideal, then I would see everything that was Government sponsered as Buddhist related. If we had prayer in school it would be lighting insense and spinning the prayer wheel or putting out prayer flags. Our school play would depict the birth, life and death of the Buddha rather than any other minority religious beliefs - including the Christian Nativity. Keeping religion out of governement protects religion - irregardless if it is the majority or minorite breligion in your area.Oh really, that is extreme and I''m a bigger atheist than you are, so there! na nah nah nah, na.
Last edited by Spartana; 6-25-11 at 1:12pm.
The post wasnt about whether I cared or not. The atheists were ranting at the fireman. That was offensive. They responded on 9/11 and should be respected.
"The post wasnt about whether I cared or not. The atheists were ranting at the fireman. That was offensive. They responded on 9/11 and should be respected. "
I thought the atheists were ranting about the sign - did I miss something?
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