CNN: "The biggest terror threat in this country is white men"

[catherine]

I agree he's a symptom, but he's such a vile caricature that dragging him offstage with a big hook would surely produce a huge sigh of relief from civilized people everywhere.

A lot of times just treating the symptom provides relief. Then you can address the root cause.

[bae]

I agree he's a symptom, but he's such a vile caricature that dragging him offstage with a big hook would surely produce a huge sigh of relief from civilized people everywhere.

It is telling to me that this has not yet happened. Our Congress has not been doing its job.

I have been happy with the Attorney General of WA state, and some of his peers, in their attempts to resist some of the sillier things.

[JaneV2.0]

It is telling to me that this has not yet happened. Our Congress has not been doing its job.

I have been happy with the Attorney General of WA state, and some of his peers, in their attempts to resist some of the sillier things.

I'm proud in general of the West Coast and their keeping their collective eyes on the ball. Definitely Congress is not doing its job.

[Ultralight]

How many people have been harmed by white men walking down alleys in the last 20 years in the US? Hint, I suspect it's a wildly higher number than the four airplanes that have been hijacked by muslims in the US during the same time period.

I think you are missing the point. What do you judge people by? Color of their skin (apparently in some cases, but not others). Their sex (apparently for one sex, but not the other).

Here is another case: In college I had a roommate who, as it turns out, was racist against black people. He thought that black people were naturally more likely to be criminals. Why did he think this? Because of his personal experience. He and his brother, when they were kids, were accosted by a group of black kids. These black kids beat them up and stole their bikes. Then later on he insisted that black males were accused of and convicted of violent crimes more often than whites or Asians. He claimed statistics showed this.

(It should go without saying that he sure as heck was not my roommate for long!).

But my ex-roommate's rationale is based on both personal experience (which Zoe Girl used to justify her prejudice against white men) and stats (which several on this thread have used to justify their prejudice).

So when it is okay to attribute criminal behavior to race or sex or religion based on personal experience and/or stats? And when it is not okay?

(Chances are no one will address this.)

[Ultralight]

What office is Mr. Bannon running for?

Dude! She is correct. Bannon is drawing massive crowds at the biggest venues in the country!

Check this out! "Steve Bannon reportedly drew a crowd of 25 people for a speech at a Holiday Inn in Kansas"

https://www.businessinsider.com/stev...endees-2018-10

[catherine]

I think you are missing the point. What do you judge people by? Color of their skin (apparently in some cases, but not others). Their sex (apparently for one sex, but not the other).

Here is another case: In college I had a roommate who, as it turns out, was racist against black people. He thought that black people were naturally more likely to be criminals. Why did he think this? Because of his personal experience. He and his brother, when they were kids, were accosted by a group of black kids. These black kids beat them up and stole their bikes. Then later on he insisted that black males were accused of and convicted of violent crimes more often than whites or Asians. He claimed statistics showed this.

(It should go without saying that he sure as heck was not my roommate for long!).

But my ex-roommate's rationale is based on both personal experience (which Zoe Girl used to justify her prejudice against white men) and stats (which several on this thread have used to justify their prejudice).

So when it is okay to attribute criminal behavior to race or sex or religion based on personal experience and/or stats? And when it is not okay?

(Chances are no one will address this.)

Here's an interesting article on how our brain defaults to certain false beliefs. Maybe our default action should be to question all our beliefs, whether they are based on experience, statistics or a Facebook meme.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40528587...t-knows-better

This is why I love Thich That Hanh's 2nd Mindfulness Training--Non-Attachment to Views:

Aware of the suffering created by attachment to views and wrong perceptions, we are determined to avoid being narrow-minded and bound to present views. We are committed to learning and practicing non-attachment to views and being open to others’ experiences and insights in order to benefit from the collective wisdom. We are aware that the knowledge we presently possess is not changeless, absolute truth. Insight is revealed through the practice of compassionate listening, deep looking, and letting go of notions rather than through the accumulation of intellectual knowledge. Truth is found in life, and we will observe life within and around us in every moment, ready to learn throughout our lives.

[Ultralight]

Here's an interesting article on how our brain defaults to certain false beliefs. Maybe our default action should be to question all our beliefs, whether they are based on experience, statistics or a Facebook meme.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40528587...t-knows-better

Cool article! Much to think about (and doubt! haha). Thanks for sharing.

[JaneV2.0]

I see an incel is in the news for shooting up a yoga studio.
He was on record for hating nearly everyone who wasn't a white male.
The face of American terrorism.

[Ultralight]

I see an incel is in the news for shooting up a yoga studio.
He was on record for hating nearly everyone who wasn't a white male.
The face of American terrorism.

Those incels are very disturbed. Horrible god damn tragedy. Just depressing.

When I read about it, I was thinking about something Sam Harris had written about. He wrote something (and I am drawing on memory here) about how ideology can contribute to deranging people. From what I understand, these incels have an ideology and part of it is hating women. Twisted.

[Ultralight]

I see an incel is in the news for shooting up a yoga studio.
He was on record for hating nearly everyone who wasn't a white male.
The face of American terrorism.

Jane, have you read this article on Incels?

It seems fairly comprehensive. Lots of info.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/us/in...rnd/index.html