Page 114 of 117 FirstFirst ... 1464104112113114115116 ... LastLast
Results 1,131 to 1,140 of 1166

Thread: Impeachment?

  1. #1131
    Senior Member jp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    10,265
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post

    We don't have reason to believe that. That issue could have been settled in the courts but for some reason no one tried. Maybe next time.
    Or, since the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was running the trial it could have been settled this time around if the republicans had actually wanted to hold a trial like every other impeachment. You know, with crazy stuff like witnesses and evidence the way every other impeachment trial in our history has had. Instead all we got was sad sack Susan wringing her hands and doing nothing but wishing upon a Star that they could have called witnesses.

  2. #1132
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    8,394
    You know, I was very disappointed that Collins did not push through to do the right thing, and so happy that Romney did. I don't think name-calling does much good.
    I am trying in my own life to rise above some of the cynicism and pettiness that seems to comprise our national discourse. I think we are better than that.

  3. #1133
    Simpleton Alan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    9,844
    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Or, since the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was running the trial it could have been settled this time around if the republicans had actually wanted to hold a trial like every other impeachment. You know, with crazy stuff like witnesses and evidence the way every other impeachment trial in our history has had. Instead all we got was sad sack Susan wringing her hands and doing nothing but wishing upon a Star that they could have called witnesses.
    I guess her Democratic tendencies came into play since they have a history of never providing a single vote for witnesses or conviction of impeachment charges when their party holds the Presidency. That hasn't seemed to hurt the Dems much so I suppose Collins' reputation won't suffer for more than a minute or two.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

  4. #1134
    Senior Member jp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    10,265
    Every other of the 14 impeachments in our history has had witnesses.

    But hey, at least susan is confident that trump has learned a lesson. Based on her statement about that I'm guessing she's also confident that voters are complete morons.

  5. #1135
    Simpleton Alan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    9,844
    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Every other of the 14 impeachments in our history has had witnesses.
    Next time the Dems should wait until they have a majority so they can get their way. They tried to prevent witnesses in the Clinton trial but just weren't popular enough. Maybe if they were a little less partisan?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

  6. #1136
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    8,869
    I think in the end, everyone got what they needed from the process. The Democratic leadership got to make a display, that while futile in terms of practical consequences, could appease their critics on the left. The Republican leadership got to flex their political muscle and make a show of their solidarity. The punditocracy got something to opine about far more interesting than the presidential candidates arguing over who said what to who in 2018. Outrage addicts in both camps got a cathartic thrill: the believers in both a domestic deep state and a far reaching Kremlin conspiracy got fuel for their fantasies. Trump got yet another chance to feel aggrieved and do some staff purging. More than one book deal will no doubt be signed. Eric Ciaramella may even get input into who plays him in the movie. Google got a ton of traffic from people looking for ammunition for their arguments.

    The only real losers I see in all this are the Bidens and diehard fans of “The Young and the Restless”.

  7. #1137
    Senior Member jp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    10,265
    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post

    The only real losers I see in all this are the Bidens and diehard fans of “The Young and the Restless”.
    And everyone that testified against trump or is related to someone who testified against trump.

    The biggest winner, at least for now, is trump. Who undoubtedly learned quite a different lesson from the one that Sad Sack Susan hinted at.

  8. #1138
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    8,869
    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And everyone that testified against trump or is related to someone who testified against trump.
    It’s not like they’ll be packed off to some gulag. This isn’t Russia or Cuba or one of those other countries Bernie admires. They get to be heroes to the anti-Trump crowd, which will probably help their careers in the long run. Maybe even a book deal and speaking fee here and there.

  9. #1139
    Senior Member jp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    10,265
    Not yet anyway. But supposedly Barr has set up a batphone or something for guiliani to fast-track conspiracy theories to the justice department.

  10. #1140
    Senior Member Rogar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    6,042
    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    It’s not like they’ll be packed off to some gulag. This isn’t Russia or Cuba or one of those other countries Bernie admires. They get to be heroes to the anti-Trump crowd, which will probably help their careers in the long run. Maybe even a book deal and speaking fee here and there.
    I thought Russia was Trumps pal.

    Speaking of gulag, the news today said the DOJ is recommending an 8 to 9 year sentence for T's associate, Roger Stone. I've lost track of how many of his circle have been charged or sentenced. At least all of the witch hunts have flushed a few crooks out of the system.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 4 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •