Conavirus......

[ApatheticNoMore]

Exactly what is the real life scenario people see stocking up as useful for? I'm really curious. Because I can't see how any of it would do me that much good, given the reality of my circumstances.

- If it's just wanting to avoid the supermarket, that might avoid some germs of course, but germs are all around elsewhere for many of us (I can't avoid germs at the office for instance and if people at the office still go to the supermarket ... I'm two degrees of separation). So at best it's reduction of risk to a degree. And then should I be stocking up on gas so as not to have to touch the gas pump etc.?
- If it's some kind of government order of mass quarantines of healthy people I don't see it happening ever, in South Korea yes, in the U.S. nope. They'll let us die and make us go to work I think (immune system don't fail me now!). If I'm wrong hey, but that's how I believe it would play out, maybe especially with Trump.
- If it's someone wanting to stay in because they have corona virus or think they might then THANK YOU, thank you for not infecting others to the degree you can, thank you, thank you. This is the proper social action to take (but maybe one should get medical help, and be quarantined in a hospital at that point if there is space and then the hospital will feed you). Because yea I could be "quarantined" in my apartment, but I still might infect the rest of the apartment building. Oh I might not even laundry or anything to avoid spreading germs to the laundry room etc., I can use the bathtub I guess, but still.

If the real life scenario is "an earthquake" or something, oh very well and good to have supplies, but then we are not talking corona virus anymore.

[Teacher Terry]

If you have to work you can’t self quarantine. We only grocery shop once a month normally so that’s the same and we always fill our medications for 3 months because it’s cheaper. A 11lb bag of dog food lasts my 2 small dogs 3 months so really business as usual.

[iris lilies]

I listened to Donald's press conference today where he basically said the risk is very low for healthy young people, so stay calm. I guess he's not concerned about older people with underlying health conditions...

What a silly thing to say.


No reasonable people will blame The Donald for coronavirus.

However—Many reasonable people will blame him for every tiny step he takes to address (or not address) every tiny issue associated with coronavirus, and the above statement a good example.

The guy in the White House is a lightning rod for this stuff, as he should be because that’s his role. Exaggerating everything about coronavirus does no one any good tho.

[Yppej]

ANM in my case it is if I am forcibly quarantined.

[frugal-one]

[QUOTE=iris lilies;345942]What a silly thing to say.


No reasonable people will blame The Donald for coronavirus.

However—Many reasonable people will blame him for every tiny step he takes to address (or not address) every tiny issue associated with coronavirus, and the above statement a good example.

The guy in the White House is a lightning rod for this stuff, as he should be because that’s his role. Exaggerating everything about coronavirus does no one any good tho.[/QUO
The point was



Jesus H. NOBODY in their right mind blames trump for the virus. His stupid remarks are what sets people off.... as noted above. Quit watching FOX news.

[JaneV2.0]

Trump has decimated the CDC and other agencies we depend on to have our best interests in mind:

"It is also true that in 2018 the Trump administration fired key officials connected to the U.S. pandemic response, and they were not replaced.

Also in 2018, news reports circulated about an 80% reduction in the CDC’s program that worked in various countries to fight epidemics. That was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding. “Countries where the CDC is planning to scale back include some of the world’s hot spots for emerging infectious disease, such as China, Pakistan, Haiti, Rwanda and Congo,” the Washington Post reported in 2018.

The fact that epidemic prevention-efforts were scaled back in China gained new significance in February 2020 as coronavirus spread globally after it was first detected in Wuhan, China, in late 2019." (from Snopes.com)


He has tried repeatedly to cut the CDC budget, stopped only by Congress, which controls the funds.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cut-cdc-budget/

[Yppej]

With so many of these epidemics I think if only people ate a plant based diet instead of keeping animals confined in cruel, close quarters how much safer we would be. India is densely populated like China and even warmer, and has primitive sanitation systems in many places, yet isn't the virus breeding grounds because many of its people are vegetarians.

[Teacher Terry]

My son was in India on vacation and got severe diarrhea so many times he cut his 2 month trip there short. They aren’t a model for anything. The stories he told about conditions(

[dado potato]

Exactly what is the real life scenario people see stocking up as useful for? I'm really curious.
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If the maps of the confirmed cases show red dots within a 100 mile radius of me, I believe I would be glad not to need to go shopping for food, otc medications, & household supplies. (If the threat of coronavirus passes, without a single case existing within 100 miles, all the consumables will gradually be used up … basically I would have bought some things sooner than I normally would have). In general I would want to be able to hunker down and avoid contact with other people until those red dots representing "existing" cases are replaced with dots representing "recovered". In my thinking, all recovered within a 100 mile radius would be all clear, and I would return to normal interactions.

Shopping is just one activity to avoid when hunkering down. Depending on the person, there might also be going in to work, classes, audience events, religious services, the coin-operated laundromat, etc.

Another scenario involves a public health (government) initiated "voluntary quarantine"... From what I read, public health officials at the county level would be notified by the CDC of the name/address of persons that have possibly been exposed to the virus (such as by having recently travelled where there was an outbreak, or having contact with someone who is a confirmed case). Then the public health official looks the person up and goes over the protocol for, say, 14 days of "self-isolation". I have not seen the Frequently Asked Questions about "self isolation", so I don't know whether there is any restriction on going shopping. My hunch is the CDC wants people who have been exposed to the virus to be governed by the Fats Waller lyrics in Ain't Misbehavin. In this scenario a stash of food and household supplies would be desirable. Not to mention "a radio"! <wink>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSNPpssruFY
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[JaneV2.0]

My son was in India on vacation and got severe diarrhea so many times he cut his 2 month trip there short. They aren’t a model for anything. The stories he told about conditions(

The Vegetarian regions in India have the world's highest incidence of type 2 diabetes, I read this morning.
All those carbohydrates (but delicious, I bet. Love Indian food.)