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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    Anyone from Oregon? I hear it's been mail-in ballot only for several years and am told the residents love it!
    Not me, but my son lives in Portland and has reported on the process very favorably over the years.

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    Oregon was first on the West Coast to embrace total voting by mail; Washington followed, and California has it as an option now. The process has been closely monitored and found safe and effective. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...laska-nebraska

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    We don’t have to imagine, though: As I said, about a quarter of all votes were cast by mail in 2016. Absentee ballots have long been available in dozens of states. Since 2000, overall, about a quarter-billion votes have been cast by mail. Thus far, there have been virtually no documented incidents of coercion or abuse. As NVHC notes in a white paper on this subject, “Oregon has mailed-out more than 100 million ballots since 2000, with about a dozen cases of proven fraud.” That’s a 0.000012 percent rate of fraud.

    Meanwhile, as the New York Times Magazine detailed in a recent piece, there’s basically no such thing as a hacker-proof electronic voting machine. The ones in use in the US certainly don’t fit that bill. “In the 15 years since electronic voting machines were first adopted by many states,” reporter Kim Zetter writes, “numerous reports by computer scientists have shown nearly every make and model to be vulnerable to hacking.”

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    Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland made televised statement this morning declaring a "Stay at Home Directive" effective at 8 PM tonight. This was followed by a "wireless emergency alert" to all the mobile devices in the state of MD.

    Gov Hogan said that all previous executive orders remain in effect, but:We are no longer asking or suggesting that Marylanders stay home. We are directing them to do so. (There are still the exceptions for essential purposes). The statement included the Governor's warning about enforcement: Anyone who willfully and knowingly violates this order is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not exceeding $5,000, imprisonment not exceeding one year, or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    It isn't.

    I'm sure there are plenty of factors involved; much as I like the job Tim Walz is doing in Minnesota, I don't know as I'd credit his words alone with the difference. I stand by my experience in living here for 35+ years. But I won't deny that others have had different experiences.
    One might also credit Wisconsin’s proximity to the Chicago hot spot versus the relative isolation of other states as a factor more important than theories inspired by local rivalries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    theories inspired by local rivalries.
    Oh, that's no theory. Minnesota clearly is better. We've got receipts.

    Proximity to Chicago may make a difference, but Chicago has not been the hotbed of coronavirus that the West Coast and New York City have been. That geographic point is, simply, one of many, many plausible explanations for differences in this event. I just don't believe it's entirely down to random chance or some cocktail of events and situations. But we live in a post-factual era, so whatever anybody thinks something is, well, that's what it is.
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    I'm very impressed with Gov. Hogan. He broadcasts at 11 and the difference between his press conferences and the White House resident's are clear. Calm, sensible, science based, data based, no wishy washy maybes, just do it. Yet, he does not come across as vengeful or dictatorial, just smart! So, we're all inside except for medical, food and essentials. He closed the Ocean City boardwalk and beach last week to prevent fools. We are close to Washington which is predicted to be another hot spot. They've set up triage tents, testing sites near the hospitals. He's paying attention and making decisions. I am a staunch Democrat but would vote for him.

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    Our governor, "nasty*" Jay Inslee, announced yesterday that our infections seem to be leveling off (hard to tell with little testing) and our hospitals are in no immediate danger of being overwhelmed. Good news.

    *per Trump
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    The Army Corps of Engineers is setting up a field hospital for NON-plague patients at the huge (2 million square feet or something like that) McCormick Place convention center on the Chicago lakefront. This is to keep the hospitals clear for the plague patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Our governor, "nasty*" Jay Inslee, announced yesterday that our infection levels seem to be leveling off (hard to tell with little testing) and our hospitals are in no immediate danger of being overwhelmed. Good news.*per Trump
    I have been watching the. Umbers is WA and that was my impression.
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    IL's stay at home order was just extended to April 30.

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