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    Americans don’t want to work on a farm which involves long hours of hard physical labor. I know quite a few retired from the medical field that aren’t going back to work. They said their skills are too rusty plus they are worried about themselves and their spouses getting infected.

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    I suspect it also involves a great deal of chemical exposure being it's industrial agriculture and involves massive pesticide spraying etc..

    Even with "essential" businesses, employees that CAN work from home should be working from home. In many cases they may not be, but that is because the owners of such businesses care very little for the well being of their employees, and as long as they can fall on the gray or white side of the law little else matters to them. I think I work kind of in a grey area but with a company that is determined almost everyone (well everyone except those who keep the computer network and remote computers that allow us to do so running) should work from home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Americans don’t want to work on a farm which involves long hours of hard physical labor. I know quite a few retired from the medical field that aren’t going back to work. They said their skills are too rusty plus they are worried about themselves and their spouses getting infected.
    Yes, this is true. Was not always like that. Farm labor is tough work.

    Here is how it was in the dustbowl...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    You're right Steve, it is a MESS! My brother produced 90,000 # of milk daily. He had a long-term contract with a purchaser. He bought futures for feed.

    I'm so glad he was able to finally sell the operation back in September. He is 66yo and didn't need to go through yet another financial disaster. He's been through 3 since 1972. The guy who bought it is BIG! It is his 4th farm. He'll survive this.

    There is really no such thing as a small family dairy business anymore. Those days are gone.
    Lotsa respect for the dairy farmers. Milk twice a day, 365 days a year...no rest!

    Too bad all that trashed milk could not be evaporated into powdered milk. Or into cheese. Cheese was invented as a way to preserve excess milk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invisibleflash View Post
    Lotsa respect for the dairy farmers. Milk twice a day, 365 days a year...no rest!

    Too bad all that trashed milk could not be evaporated into powdered milk. Or into cheese. Cheese was invented as a way to preserve excess milk.
    It's a matter of contracts. Milk processors didn't renew some contracts (I do not know why). They have capacity.

    Yes, it's hard work that never ends. In high school, I was the relief milker in the summer for vacation and the 1d/week off. I'll take 20 hours standing in the operating room over dairy life!

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    The Oregonian this morning says that Oregon is testing 1,500 people a day. They could test more but the parameters are too restrictive. I don't get it. This fits what people in our hospital are saying. We just aren't testing enough people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonora Shepherd View Post
    The Oregonian this morning says that Oregon is testing 1,500 people a day. They could test more but the parameters are too restrictive. I don't get it. This fits what people in our hospital are saying. We just aren't testing enough people.
    Andrew Cuomo explained it pretty well the other day. Seems there are lots of different manufacturers with proprietary reagents, etc. and none of them work together and no one's in charge, of course, and you can't get the supplies and reagents you need, etc. etc. Ah. the glories of capitalism. If we had a functioning federal government, they could have taken charge (Defense Production Act, anyone?) a couple of months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonora Shepherd View Post
    The Oregonian this morning says that Oregon is testing 1,500 people a day. They could test more but the parameters are too restrictive. I don't get it. This fits what people in our hospital are saying. We just aren't testing enough people.
    I have family in PDX. Available testing materials are gone by 0815! Then they all wait for the next shipment. Don't listen to he who says there is adequate testing. It is blatantly untrue!

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    I have family in PDX. Available testing materials are gone by 0815! Then they all wait for the next shipment. Don't listen to he who says there is adequate testing. It is blatantly untrue!
    not many saying that.

    Testing either flat or declining from beginning of April I hear. That might be why the curve is flattening, test have flattened out. Now I could go a bit conspiratorial and say they don't WANT comprehensive testing as they want to keep the numbers artificially low. But could just be shortages. It's getting hard to keep attributing what looks like malice to incompetence but ...

    There is more testing than there was, so if you want a test I'd try to get it since some testing centers have opened locally here for instance (I would try to get one with any sickness symptoms). And if you are high risk you are eligible for priority testing. But no comprehensive testing of the population is not going on at this point.
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    Add in reports of inordinate amounts of false negatives...

    Apparently, there has never been a vaccine for a corona virus. Also, if the common cold is any indicator, natural immunities don't develop. Or am I way off here?

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