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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Medical personnel have to fit their masks to their face in some kind of chamber, and then a sugar substitute is piped in. If they can taste it, the mask isn't fitted properly. At least that's what I've read.
    You are correct. An N95 mask is ONLY effective if it the proper size. We actually go through an annual process called "fit testing". If a SEAL cannot be obtained, it is not an effective mask. Someone with a beard will never have a seal. Some very lean faces may not get a seal.

    The public buying and using them is a ridiculous waste of resources-both a wasted mask and the $. Patients who really need them are fit-tested for proper protection.

    Facts matter!

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    I'm wondering if body glue would solve any fitting problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardnr View Post
    You are correct. An N95 mask is ONLY effective if it the proper size. We actually go through an annual process called "fit testing". If a SEAL cannot be obtained, it is not an effective mask. Someone with a beard will never have a seal. Some very lean faces may not get a seal.

    The public buying and using them is a ridiculous waste of resources-both a wasted mask and the $. Patients who really need them are fit-tested for proper protection.

    Facts matter!
    I have another coworker who works a second job where masks are required. His big beard pushes the mask up over his eyes so they told him to tie an old T shirt over his nose and mouth, not kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    I have no trouble getting enough oxygen to breathe through a mask. I see lots of people wearing them; they're not all turning blue from being unable to oxygenate.
    I heard on the radio this morning that a woman wearing a mask could not breathe and passed out while driving, causing a car accident. So bully for you that you have no problem breathing when masked.

    Today my governor signed an order that will fine people out in public without a mask if within 6 feet of someone so I guess I will have to wear one to stores because while I keep 6 feet away from others there are idiots who don't keep 6 feet from me and I could be blamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I heard on the radio this morning that a woman wearing a mask could not breathe and passed out while driving, causing a car accident. So bully for you that you have no problem breathing when masked.

    Today my governor signed an order that will fine people out in public without a mask if within 6 feet of someone so I guess I will have to wear one to stores because while I keep 6 feet away from others there are idiots who don't keep 6 feet from me and I could be blamed.
    I'm sorry life is so hard for you right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    I'm sorry life is so hard for you right now.
    Harder for others than me and it will get worse with summer coming. Just watch how many people with underlying medical conditions pass out from heatstroke when it's 90 degrees out and they're forced to wear masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Harder for others than me and it will get worse with summer coming. Just watch how many people with underlying medical conditions pass out from heatstroke when it's 90 degrees out and they're forced to wear masks.
    Early on in this pandemic I watched a video of the icu in Britain where they were innundated with covid patients. One of the problems, they said, was that people could only work so long with masks on, and some of the staff could not work at all with masks on, it was so anxiety-producing.

    These are trained, skilled medical professionals, and there were staffing problems at the hospital because of this factor.

    I have also read on military boards about people who cannot wear masks because of PTSD.

    Many of us with COPD do very, very poorly wearing a mask.

    I don't think it's fair to measure the behavior of others by what comes easily for the viewer; like any number of physical and mental things, these conditions are not immediately visible to those who are saying, "just wear a mask."

    And add summer to the mix; it's going to be bad.

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    Physically went into a grocery store for the first time in almost two months. I was going to farm market and noticed grocer had just a few cars in parking lot so decided to stop on the way. They had big bags of dried beans in bulk section. I got split peas, lentils, black, navy, kidney and black eye peas. Also they had whole wheat and Unbleached flour, oatmeal and organic brown rice. I felt like I hit the jackpot. All the stuff I haven’t been able to get. They had quite a bit of meat, all dairy and egg cases full, nuts and bread aisle pretty full. I’ve never spent so much on groceries at once. I have lots of spices and can get fresh veggies pretty easily, so I feel so much less stress. Checker said they are finally slowing down the last few days and have had the chance to fully restock.
    They are reopening our state and I want a very full pantry. It’s too soon here.

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    You are correct Jane.

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    Last night, I went grocery shopping in the last hour before closing. Very few shoppers, with occasional masks worn, ample supplies of the frozen fruit and veggies and 1% milk that I needed. Ample paper products, meat and eggs as well. Staff were limited in number but very upbeat and attentive which was great to see after a busy Saturday (or was it so busy?)

    Robin Hood had advised that they had run out of their yellow bags of flour with logos but an ample supply of plain large bags of flour was there. All in all, a very positive experience as nothing seemed to be lacking. I even got my first batch of fresh asparagus which I will enjoy today. The choice and number of flowers was considerably reduced from the days before the lockdown.
    As Cicero said, “Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others.”

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